Dusty corners of the NHRA Classification Guide - Page 2

427FE · 10-14-2020, 10:50 AM

Running r/ss

qwiked · 10-28-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 427FE

There was another fella with a 64 galaxie running n/ss back in the 80s with a 352. Jerry Pruit. Cars is coming back out of hibernation for some ss action.

Kip Martin ran a 352 4v 1964 Galaxie 2door hardtop.

Mike Schwartz · 11-09-2020, 07:26 PM

Continuing the Ford theme, here's another small Ford:

This is the 1962 Ford Falcon Deluxe 2-Door Wagon.

With a 144/85(85) inline-6, its factors are even higher than the previous Mustang. The manual factor is 30.40 (V/S only, at 2040 w/driver), while the Auto factor is 31.06 (V/SA only) If anyone wants to try building one for Super Stock, the only classes are SS/P & SS/PA and you'd have to find a way to drop the weight w/driver down to 1615 lbs!

The other engine is the optional 170/101(101) inline-6 [25.58/26.13]. All the classes are the same, but less weight removal would be needed.

Source: www.classracerinfo.com

Rusty Gillis · 10-16-2020, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Is this the combo that Kip Martin ran in SS? I never met him, but became a fan from seeing him in Dragster and doing well with the car. (In the 80's?)

Yes and I believe Blair Patrick has it now.

Rory McNeil · 10-19-2020, 08:59 PM

Jerry Pruitt had his 64 352/250 hp 4 speed car out at a combo in Yakima Washington late last year for the first time in 30 years. Hopefully he will get to run it some more in 2021.

Mike Schwartz · 10-26-2020, 08:57 PM

It's hard to consider a Ford Mustang as "dusty", but some of them have been particularly weak, before the recent performance resurgence. What we have here is the Mustang in the NHRA Classification Guide with the worse performance factor of any year:

The 1987 Ford Mustang LX 140/88 I-4

This car has a whopping 30.38 factor in Stock, putting it in W/S or W/SA (At -561lb from shipping weight)

In Super Stock, the engine is re-rated to 100hp with a factor of 26.73. That puts it into SS/P or SS/PA (At -973lb from shipping weight)

Terry Cain · 10-14-2020, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 427FE

When was the last time you saw a galaxie in s/ss?

Saw one running NSS 3 weeks ago at INDY at the NMCA meet. I'm telling you guys. There is some neat old car in that series racing. How about a 59 El camino with a 348? Yep, there was one there. OR I think 65 Studabaker with a 283 running in a pure stock class.

427FE · 10-14-2020, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry Cain

Saw one running NSS 3 weeks ago at INDY at the NMCA meet. I'm telling you guys. There is some neat old car in that series racing. How about a 59 El camino with a 348? Yep, there was one there. OR I think 65 Studabaker with a 283 running in a pure stock class.

The spirit of nss has faded with strokers, engines not available in that specific chassis, etc.

Mark Yacavone · 10-06-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 534X

Has anyone ever tried to make a 2.8/PFI run competitively in a 3rd Gen F-Body?

150 is kinda high for a 2.8 in RWD. The same engine in a Cavalier is 125 , with a .430 lift cam and a softer index.
It will still run under the index, but not by a lot.

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Mike Schwartz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 533 Likes: 129 Liked 248 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Dusty corners of the NHRA Classification Guide Continuing the Ford theme, here's another small Ford: This is the 1962 Ford Falcon Deluxe 2-Door Wagon. With a 144/85(85) inline-6, its factors are even higher than the previous Mustang. The manual factor is 30.40 (V/S only, at 2040 w/driver), while the Auto factor is 31.06 (V/SA only) If anyone wants to try building one for Super Stock, the only classes are SS/P & SS/PA and you'd have to find a way to drop the weight w/driver down to 1615 lbs! The other engine is the optional 170/101(101) inline-6 [25.58/26.13]. All the classes are the same, but less weight removal would be needed. Source: www.classracerinfo.com

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Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,104 Times in 302 Posts	Re: Dusty corners of the NHRA Classification Guide Jerry Pruitt had his 64 352/250 hp 4 speed car out at a combo in Yakima Washington late last year for the first time in 30 years. Hopefully he will get to run it some more in 2021. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

10-26-2020, 08:57 PM	#6
Mike Schwartz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 533 Likes: 129 Liked 248 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Dusty corners of the NHRA Classification Guide It's hard to consider a Ford Mustang as "dusty", but some of them have been particularly weak, before the recent performance resurgence. What we have here is the Mustang in the NHRA Classification Guide with the worse performance factor of any year: The 1987 Ford Mustang LX 140/88 I-4 This car has a whopping 30.38 factor in Stock, putting it in W/S or W/SA (At -561lb from shipping weight) In Super Stock, the engine is re-rated to 100hp with a factor of 26.73. That puts it into SS/P or SS/PA (At -973lb from shipping weight)