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Old 09-05-2021, 11:59 AM   #1
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Default Re: To all you INTELLECTUALS (B Parker)

Billy I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with everything you said. Except for the INTELLECTUALS ( B Parker). Indy this year proved that if the AHFS is in effect all it will do is keep some away and anyone that is fast enough will just play the game. I agree the AHFS needs to be tweaked. It's 20 year old standards. I don't care how but either lower the indexes a tenth or change the three ET trigger points by a tenth. Have it twice a year like they had it. And if a combo triggers it to be looked at more than 3 times in those 6 months. You don't need to take a look at the averages it gets automatic 5HP upon the 3rd trigger. Let Indy be the one National that racers don't have to play the game. No AHFS. It will let racers see what combo's could use some extra weight or how far behind or ahead they are of others in their same combo. I know others will find fault in this but it is better than what we have now. BP

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Old 09-05-2021, 01:25 PM   #2
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Go back to class winners only at Indy,Gators,Winters(whatever other Nats you want to). Then fastest 32 qualified after that. No class singles. In Super Stock this year that would be 31 class winners plus the 3 combo class winners plus 32 top qualifiers. Put the "Class" back in racing. AFHS in force with no "Mineshaft" deal. I'd like to see people game that system.
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Old 09-05-2021, 07:09 PM   #3
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Default Re: To all you INTELLECTUALS (B Parker)

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If not the AHFS then what?
What I'm hoping for is that a few Old Timers will get on here and explain to the geniuses who don't like (or agree) with the way HP hits are handled now how it was done in the "Good-old-days" before Nitro Joe's and the internet. When you went through Tech and were told that your combo got 5-10-15 HP this week (back then, Tech liked nice, round numbers, no 2-3) and your combo runs this class and weighs this much now.

Would I like to see changes to the AHFS? Sure I would but I don't believe that the Tech Dept. has the time or manpower right now to "fix" it.
I think that it would be great to have some kind of an independent auditor handle it but I can't imagine who or what that would be and I don't believe that the NHRA would allow an outside contractor to handle it anyway.

Come on you Old Poops, remind us what it used to be like in the Good-old-days.

For the rest of you intellectuals, let's hear your excuses.
I guess I'm qualified to respond to this
I can remember when Gary Wood left New York in J/SA, and by the time they got to Pomona, they were in I/SA! Nobody wants that..I don't think.
But what DO most people want? GP just made a point about raising the trigger.
I would do it a different way..I'd lower the indexes about a tenth every three years, until they stop giving away goodies at NHRA..Trigger stays the same.
Only problem with that is our local S/SS Combo series needs all the cars it can get and I wouldn't wanted to anyone left out at the bottom.
Of course , local races can use whatever they want, including the old IHRA + .3 indexes.
If I had a common combination and was in the middle of the pack, I'd want the trigger raised so I had a chance to catch up.
If I had a one of a kind combo in a popular class, I'd probably want the 1.20 under trigger to remain, plus the AHFS at Indy.
I think we need to get everybody on the same page before we can address the problem. It ain't gonna happen, but we can sure beat it around for several pages, here ;-)
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