Thoughts? - Page 2

Stan Hawes · 12-18-2021, 03:02 AM

This is like racing in the 50' and 60's. Narrow airport runways, no guard rails. Ii raced in the 50's and 60's at Aurora Oregon airport, Balboa in Eugene Oregon, Portland when it was an old road in the Vanport area flood area, Scappose airport, The Newport, Oregon airport The Dalles Port, Washington airport across the river from the Dalles, Oregon,
Woodburn Drag Strip is a converted airport That became a drag strip before guard rails.There was Shelton Washington airport, Arlington Washington airport, When Seattle International Raceway opened they had a great show Of all the different types of car's that raced there, Go karts, sports cars, and motorcycles.
There were 64 funny car races, The fox hunt races when females got in free, when you came down the return road the fans threw beer cans at you. Bill Donner knew how to give the fans there moneys worth. He was also the lease holder at Portland International raceway ran by Steve Dembo. These tracks back then were a lot more fun becouse you built most every thing yourself.
If you see the lead disclaimer these "Street racers" are tightly controlled races with ambuanlce's, fire truck's ,and Discovery channels money. The drivers wear full safety equipment, and I bet they have better tech inspection than the NHRA. They are doing there best to end sportsman racing.
I am glad that I retired from owning and driving when I did. The main reasion I go now is the people, I have met people from all over the world and the NHRA can not take that away from me.
Remember when you wacke up and don't see dirt above you, IT'S A GOOD DAY

rboyle · 12-19-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I like any kind of car racing. NPK is very high dollar heads up format no different than any pro NHRA category. The real difference is the TV coverage and the story line and personalities that accompany the shows. Those races pay big money 40K to win and a championship bonus at the end. So right there its a better pay day than NHRA in most cases. It is winner take all though. Jegs and Summit seem to be involved in all aspects of auto racing so it makes sense that they would get involved either by competing or sponsorship
NHRA is really behind the times on their social media and TV coverage. That seems to be hurting our side of things right now

Totally agree. Funny, they give zero numbers or math. No reaction times, ET or MPH either. I think the average fan can understand " gotta go A to B" better than "I was double Oh Three on the tree, holding two and dropped him at the 1000 and ran dead on with a 2". NHRA though also gets some of the blame. Promote the racers. Not just the Pro's, maybe the Worlds fastest Factory Stock CobraJet vs the Fastest Copo in Factory Stock! The old radio ads were legendary, and worked! They even popped up in the movie Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. It drew you in. SUNDAY Sunday sunday...

chris ok · 12-19-2021, 05:49 PM

The end of track racing is pretty big and there is some serious electronics and power mgmt involved. I do agree they need to clear the starting line. It’s pulling in big numbers.
Along with all these big bracket races. So there appears to be a food future in racing.

On another note. What about full radial type prep racing. It’s popular too. Cecil has a monthly street car shootout. Many classes pro mod, too sportsman, ultra street and x275 -all 1/8 mile.
8.50, 10.0, 11.50 plus bracket classes all 1/4 mile.
Track is prepped to the max.
I like that a lot too.
Would love to see stock n super stock on radial prep.
Along w nhra, and the other sanctioned bodies we are doing pretty well.

Henrys Toy · 12-13-2021, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

I’m all for it if it helps the tracks. Hopefully it will lead to some crossover if people see class racing and think they want to try it out. I personally don’t care for crowds all around the starting line so have zero interest in participating, but that’s just me.

good morning to all,
I love all types of racing cars, Drag Racing is my passion. When the "Street Outlaws" started I figured it would last a season or two then go away. Okay - I was wrong!
I think adding in the personal side helps sell this on TV. I think Wally Parks is rolling over in his grave, seeing how this Street Racing has taken a hold of an audience baffles me. Maybe its the "outlaw" vibe. Yes, seeing all those people on the starting line are a little too close for even my comfort. If one of those land based missiles coughs a blower with all those people or a Nitrous Backfire happens I'm afraid this fun and games will all come to a screeching halt!
I like the fact that I hear people outside of the Car World ( like at my job ) talk about this stuff with a fair amount of interest. If this helps to develop interest in our sport and hopefully gets a few people together to build something - then I'm all for it. If this helps build some support for local Drag Racing, I'm real happy for that. But not for me, I'm a Class Racer,
that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

kansas stocker · 12-13-2021, 01:36 PM

When "Street Outlaws" showed up on tv, to me, it showcased everything that Wally Parks and the original NHRA stood against. NoPrep races on tracks is a different thing and I could get behind that and young fans love it. Stock, Super Stock, and Comp will always be at the top for me.
Pete
Wish I typed faster. Henry beat me to it.

Stock726 · 12-13-2021, 01:43 PM

This has to be a track operator's dream! Open the gate and count the money! No $1K barrels of VHT or scraping & sweeping chores.
Unfortunately that doesn't cross over or help class racing in any way.
I hope NHRA can survive another 65 years, but I doubt it more every day.

12-18-2021, 03:02 AM	#1
Stan Hawes Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: gresham, ore Posts: 35 Likes: 111 Liked 87 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Thoughts? This is like racing in the 50' and 60's. Narrow airport runways, no guard rails. Ii raced in the 50's and 60's at Aurora Oregon airport, Balboa in Eugene Oregon, Portland when it was an old road in the Vanport area flood area, Scappose airport, The Newport, Oregon airport The Dalles Port, Washington airport across the river from the Dalles, Oregon, Woodburn Drag Strip is a converted airport That became a drag strip before guard rails.There was Shelton Washington airport, Arlington Washington airport, When Seattle International Raceway opened they had a great show Of all the different types of car's that raced there, Go karts, sports cars, and motorcycles. There were 64 funny car races, The fox hunt races when females got in free, when you came down the return road the fans threw beer cans at you. Bill Donner knew how to give the fans there moneys worth. He was also the lease holder at Portland International raceway ran by Steve Dembo. These tracks back then were a lot more fun becouse you built most every thing yourself. If you see the lead disclaimer these "Street racers" are tightly controlled races with ambuanlce's, fire truck's ,and Discovery channels money. The drivers wear full safety equipment, and I bet they have better tech inspection than the NHRA. They are doing there best to end sportsman racing. I am glad that I retired from owning and driving when I did. The main reasion I go now is the people, I have met people from all over the world and the NHRA can not take that away from me. Remember when you wacke up and don't see dirt above you, IT'S A GOOD DAY Last edited by Stan Hawes; 12-18-2021 at 10:28 AM. Reason: grammer

12-19-2021, 05:49 PM	#3
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Thoughts? The end of track racing is pretty big and there is some serious electronics and power mgmt involved. I do agree they need to clear the starting line. It’s pulling in big numbers. Along with all these big bracket races. So there appears to be a food future in racing. On another note. What about full radial type prep racing. It’s popular too. Cecil has a monthly street car shootout. Many classes pro mod, too sportsman, ultra street and x275 -all 1/8 mile. 8.50, 10.0, 11.50 plus bracket classes all 1/4 mile. Track is prepped to the max. I like that a lot too. Would love to see stock n super stock on radial prep. Along w nhra, and the other sanctioned bodies we are doing pretty well.

12-13-2021, 01:36 PM	#5
kansas stocker Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kansas Posts: 235 Likes: 502 Liked 249 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Thoughts? When "Street Outlaws" showed up on tv, to me, it showcased everything that Wally Parks and the original NHRA stood against. NoPrep races on tracks is a different thing and I could get behind that and young fans love it. Stock, Super Stock, and Comp will always be at the top for me. Pete Wish I typed faster. Henry beat me to it. Last edited by kansas stocker; 12-13-2021 at 01:38 PM. Reason: addition

12-13-2021, 01:43 PM	#6
Stock726 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 71 Likes: 24 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Thoughts? This has to be a track operator's dream! Open the gate and count the money! No $1K barrels of VHT or scraping & sweeping chores. Unfortunately that doesn't cross over or help class racing in any way. I hope NHRA can survive another 65 years, but I doubt it more every day.