NHRA Fastest 128 cars - Page 2

Dick Butler · 07-11-2008, 01:17 PM

Jack, If you mean by "free pass" a car which wins class on a BYE run. Agreed but maybe set a quota or 3 or 4 cars for the class winner but He or she deserves to be in eliminator. Only reason the fastest 128 would help is IF AHFS would be able to use the runs on one meet an correct Hp quicker.
Ed, Good point....

Mike Pearson · 07-11-2008, 01:19 PM

Probably just a prelude to the total elimination of class competition. Remember when they ran class at all of the natl events. Just too much racer input and complaining. I cant remember when there was as many knee jerk rule changes as we have seen in the past several years. Seems like there making changes just for change sake. Now we have the sportsman advisory council. I cant wait to see what they come up with. Hopefully their enhancements are better than what we have seen lately. I vote to leave the rules alone for a while and just race.

Jack Matyas · 07-11-2008, 01:38 PM

Ed -- Good point but if they (front drive cars) could run 1.10 under they were going to get into the field either way .Me -- if that happened I'd turn the wick up ......

Dick -- yes -- I was talking about BYE runs .The AHFS is in effect during Q-runs - it will help even things out.

Mike -- Wally started things with class runoffs -- they will never go away ! When we had class runs at every national event there were only a handful of nationals.

PS--You guys gotta slow down--my typing isn't that fast .

stefan callender · 07-11-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Kish

A car that exists according to the NHRA as a result of whatever input they accepted but there may/may not be any ceritifiable data to show that the combination was actually produced by the factory.

thanks Tom

Ken Miele · 07-11-2008, 01:55 PM

Hey Stefan,

I have one of those so called paper cars. I enjoy very much running the other papers cars. Come to think of it, all the cars listed in the NHRA classification guild are all paper cars. Correct me if I am wrong, but you can't race a car in NHRA unless you put it on paper first.

Paper, man you got to love it.

I hope this helps Stefan.

stefan callender · 07-11-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenny Miele

Hey Stefan,

I have one of those so called paper cars. I enjoy very much running the other papers cars. Come to think of it, all the cars listed in the NHRA classification guild are all paper cars. Correct me if I am wrong, but you can't race a car in NHRA unless you put it on paper first.

Paper, man you got to love it.

I hope this helps Stefan.

LMAO Yo Ken, youre the best...

Jack Matyas · 07-11-2008, 02:18 PM

Yo Ken -- Paper / Rocks / Scissors .....who cares? Lets just race .............

PS-- Don't have it today but when we had a "98 LT1 " paper car my thoughts were that GM built it and NHRA accepted it to race so...........

Jim Wahl · 07-11-2008, 02:24 PM

Hey Jack, RE: '98 LT1, GM never built it......NHRA did! Jim

Jack Matyas · 07-11-2008, 02:28 PM

Jim --You're right -- I've never seen one but the point is that Pontiac said they were OK to race and that's all that is necessary -- I never asked for this combo -- Pontiac wanted it ..........

PS-I gotta stop foolin around on this forum and get my butte back to work ! ! ! ! !

TOM KASCH · 07-11-2008, 02:44 PM

As someone who ran super stock at Indy from 72 to 83 ,then stock from 83 to 2003.I think some of you are not thinking this thou.....

NHRA at Indy should be class racing winner gets in.....Wally's turning over in his grave.

Now I see 50 97-2000 firebirds & camaro running in Elims. 20 a& b/sa ,too

How much longer before they put ss & stk together and run a bracket race with 1 qiulf run and then just fill in like they do now....so If your car goes 1.15 under so what who did you beat ? not a other car in your class.
That's what Indy,gator ,summer and wintrnationals should always be.....

I may not be good at writing what I want to say, but I hope you get my point.......

07-11-2008, 01:17 PM	#11
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Jack, If you mean by "free pass" a car which wins class on a BYE run. Agreed but maybe set a quota or 3 or 4 cars for the class winner but He or she deserves to be in eliminator. Only reason the fastest 128 would help is IF AHFS would be able to use the runs on one meet an correct Hp quicker. Ed, Good point....

07-11-2008, 01:19 PM	#12
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,443 Likes: 613 Liked 1,916 Times in 574 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Probably just a prelude to the total elimination of class competition. Remember when they ran class at all of the natl events. Just too much racer input and complaining. I cant remember when there was as many knee jerk rule changes as we have seen in the past several years. Seems like there making changes just for change sake. Now we have the sportsman advisory council. I cant wait to see what they come up with. Hopefully their enhancements are better than what we have seen lately. I vote to leave the rules alone for a while and just race. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

07-11-2008, 01:38 PM	#13
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,926 Likes: 406 Liked 2,050 Times in 398 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Ed -- Good point but if they (front drive cars) could run 1.10 under they were going to get into the field either way .Me -- if that happened I'd turn the wick up ...... Dick -- yes -- I was talking about BYE runs .The AHFS is in effect during Q-runs - it will help even things out. Mike -- Wally started things with class runoffs -- they will never go away ! When we had class runs at every national event there were only a handful of nationals. PS--You guys gotta slow down--my typing isn't that fast . __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO Last edited by Jack Matyas; 07-11-2008 at 01:40 PM.

07-11-2008, 01:55 PM	#15
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,860 Likes: 456 Liked 16,540 Times in 1,521 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Hey Stefan, I have one of those so called paper cars. I enjoy very much running the other papers cars. Come to think of it, all the cars listed in the NHRA classification guild are all paper cars. Correct me if I am wrong, but you can't race a car in NHRA unless you put it on paper first. Paper, man you got to love it. I hope this helps Stefan.

07-11-2008, 02:18 PM	#17
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,926 Likes: 406 Liked 2,050 Times in 398 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Yo Ken -- Paper / Rocks / Scissors .....who cares? Lets just race ............. PS-- Don't have it today but when we had a "98 LT1 " paper car my thoughts were that GM built it and NHRA accepted it to race so........... __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO

07-11-2008, 02:24 PM	#18
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Hey Jack, RE: '98 LT1, GM never built it......NHRA did! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-11-2008, 02:28 PM	#19
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,926 Likes: 406 Liked 2,050 Times in 398 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars Jim --You're right -- I've never seen one but the point is that Pontiac said they were OK to race and that's all that is necessary -- I never asked for this combo -- Pontiac wanted it .......... PS-I gotta stop foolin around on this forum and get my butte back to work ! ! ! ! ! __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO Last edited by Jack Matyas; 07-11-2008 at 02:31 PM.

07-11-2008, 02:44 PM	#20
TOM KASCH VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TOLEDO,OHIO Posts: 1,735 Likes: 0 Liked 241 Times in 100 Posts	Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars As someone who ran super stock at Indy from 72 to 83 ,then stock from 83 to 2003.I think some of you are not thinking this thou..... NHRA at Indy should be class racing winner gets in.....Wally's turning over in his grave. Now I see 50 97-2000 firebirds & camaro running in Elims. 20 a& b/sa ,too How much longer before they put ss & stk together and run a bracket race with 1 qiulf run and then just fill in like they do now....so If your car goes 1.15 under so what who did you beat ? not a other car in your class. That's what Indy,gator ,summer and wintrnationals should always be..... I may not be good at writing what I want to say, but I hope you get my point.......