Crate Motor Class

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

because it dilutes the class. As it stands right now (with the exception of a few paper cars), the motor in the car was available in the car. Have you ever tried to explain a SS/GT car to a casual fan? at least with stock and SS(traditional) its alot easier to explain. A crate motor stocker is barely a step removed from a bracket car

There are already approx. 3,400 different engine+year combos in the Classification Guide, according to what I have found at classracerinfo.com. How many more would be added if crate motors were introduced? Maybe 15-20, each of which will have the exact same specs no matter what car in which they were installed.

[Birch motor cars]

Originally Posted by Brandon Peterson

I've never understood why NHRA stocker drivers hate us crate motor cars so much.......its like we aren't good enough we are the poor people that can't get into the good resturants.....not trying to start anything just wondering why all yall hate it so bad

Im with you brother, they act as if we are not worthy. If they think they dont have crate motors they are kidding them selves, there motors are as crate as ours ours. They built them just like we built ours, with a parts list from the same rule book. The complainers must want the class to die the way I look at it. Im building a 350 330hp crate right now and proud to say it !!!

[Rory McNeil]

Really?! You think NHRA Stock Eliminator will die without allowing crate motor classes in to muddy the waters?
According to my most recent Nitro Joe Stats book (July 2017 edition), IHRA Stock total car count for 1/8th mile events was 116 cars, of which 37 were crate engine classes. For 1/4 mile events, there was a total of 54 cars in Stock (all classes), with TWO crate motor cars! (by the way, at 1/8th mile events, there was a whopping FIVE Pure Stockers and in 1/4 mile ONE Pure Stocker.
By comparision, the same time period showed a total of 1081 Stockers were entered in NHRA events. Maybe a bit lower than in past years, but hardly withering on the vine, even without Create Motor, Pure Stock, Stock GT, or seperate FI classes.
Also, saying that a Crate motor is exactly the same as NHRA Stocker engine is ridiculous. Although NHRA has allowed SOME combinations to use approved aftermarket cylinder heads, or similar configuration carburators, and in a few cases intake manifolds, it is hardly the same as IHRA Crate engines which can be mostly built from aftermarket pieces right out of the Summit or Jegs catalog.

[M Brand 505B]

First off I feel for the IHRA racers that lost their platform of racing. I couldn't imagine building an engine combination to be told its no longer valid because of a venture capitalists decision. In the future it could even happen to NHRA class cars. The issue at hand is the crate motor cars aren't in the essence of NHRA stock eliminator and there are already too many class designations. Not all IHRA crate motor cars can throw a legal NHRA engine in and race but a lot can. NHRA needs to consolidate it's current classes as many have said. Mix sticks with auto's and factor the 2008 and newer cars appropiately so they have a normal class designation on the window. Will this instantly help fans understand the classes? No, but it'll be easier if NHRA decides to promote them and will generate a few more heads up with the stick cars being put in.

[TommyPettigrew3076]

I hate to be the *** here but NHRA already has a crate motor class it's called " Pro " and " Super Pro " at your local track bracket program ( dropping the mic )

[Crew Chief]

What are you guys gripping about? NHRA has Crate Motor classes. They just call them by a different name. They are called Factory Stock, Factory Super Stock and Factory Super Stock GT. The cars in those classes do NOT have production line street legal engines that you can drive off the showroom floor and be licensed. That's the way NHRA decided to have "Crate Motor" classes and with the number of cars showing up to race, it seems to be a huge success.

Wanna go "Crate Motor" racing at NHRA with your Chevy...stick a COPO engine in your Camaro. Same theory works for Mopar with a Drag Pac engine or a Cobrajet in your Ford. You will be racing in a "Crate Motor" class, just with a different name.

[SSGN]

[QUOTE=Crew Chief;538639]What are you guys gripping about? NHRA has Crate Motor classes. They just call them by a different name. They are called Factory Stock, Factory Super Stock and Factory Super Stock GT. The cars in those classes do NOT have production line street legal engines that you can drive off the showroom floor and be licensed. That's the way NHRA decided to have "Crate Motor" classes and with the number of cars showing up to race, it seems to be a huge success.

Wanna go "Crate Motor" racing at NHRA with your Chevy...stick a COPO engine in your Camaro. Same theory works for Mopar with a Drag Pac engine or a Cobrajet in your Ford. You will be racing in a "Crate Motor" class, just with a different name

NHRA just put a very expensive twist to its crate motor class. This is sad but true.

[Nmbr1GMfan]

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ

Talking with a higher up in NHRA they are looking at Crate Motor's.
With car counts being down, this will help fill alot of fields.

Jan. 2009 was the first post. The "higher up" may not have been as high as they thought or it takes 9 years to make it through the red tape. I think you CM guys might want to keep up on the IHRA schedules.

[impstocker]

I would rather see IHRA Stock/GT Class in NHRA, just saying.

Will Lamprecht
Div 1 I/SA 65 Impala