Bogacki DQ - Page 10

Duane Eiskant II · 08-21-2009, 08:58 PM

All i got to say is thank god i can run super stock and stay away from him....now if i could just figure out a way to stay away from fletchburger i might be ok lol.......See ya at the Rock Luke...Stop by and say hi..

X-TECH MAN · 08-22-2009, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

1957 Was the first year for the Turboglide.

Thanks for the info.....The Turbo Glide must have been a rare option. Its never to late to learn something new.

tgriffith · 08-22-2009, 06:30 AM

I` d like to comment and ask a couple of questions,,,,,,first,,,I`m all for the rules in stock,,,the intergritiy of stock should be keptin tact as much as possible,,,,,,,shoot,,,if I was making the rules, stock would be thrown back to stone age,,,,,,,so if a car is a 76,,then it need 76 trim,seats,,motor

I understand as time goes by, trim packages do have to give some because of parts not being available,,and so on...

what I dont understand is a couple of items,,,,,,,,the past results show Lukes car always claimed a 68 or 69,,,,,,,,the writing of a 70 on a car that he isnt that familiar with is an easy mistake........the item I dont understand is simply this..........who gave him the weight sticker and put it on his car?????......at that point, someone should have caught that a 70 Nova couldnt run AA/SA.......OK,,,maybe not rite then but in Ihra,,,nearly as soon as you hand someone a tech card, someone is going thru the tech guide to check your info.......shouldnt this mistake been caught before the tech card hit the tower????,,,,it was obvious it was caught,,,why did they wait till after all of quailifying was over???? I can tell you first hand there is politics involved in motorsports......was this the case???.......since it was clearly a typo error.....and since it didnt effect hp/ run sheet/ or legality of his car,,why wasnt he allow to just write 69 on it????..Even though Im sure he was trying to avoid a heads up,, the 69 could run the class he desired to be in, so a reasonabe\le thinking person could plainly see there was no "scam" going on.........so why the DQ???? it would be COMPLETLY different if ANY thing changed like position on the ladder/weight/hp rating......but it wouldnt have

He took responsibility and didnt try to blame someone else but those questions above are legit questions......can you just write anything on the tech card and they dont check it....I dont have a dog in the fight ,,but when you roll across the scales, dont they have that info already posted in their book????,,,shoudlnt NHRA notified Luke on his FIRST PASS across the scales ..."sorry,,,there isnt a weight for you 70 AA/SA nova,,,,need to go see tech".....

or was someone just have a "GOD complex" and trying to teach a newbie an expensive lesson instead of trying to be helpfull?????

herbjr · 08-22-2009, 06:46 AM

Well said, the funny thing is Tim most of the people who complained arent on a lot of qualifing sheets well at least according to Dragracecentral.com.

chevy620 · 08-22-2009, 07:39 AM

You got that right, Herb!
Keyboard Eliminators have more time to post I guess.

SC2422 · 08-22-2009, 09:06 AM

All I remember from the post was "we will continue to run Stock Eliminator, and we will be successful"

GULP!!! You have been warned....go get 'em Cool Hand.

Rich Biebel · 08-22-2009, 10:33 AM

I am not certain but believe Ray Skipper had a similar problem and was also DQ'ed at one event for the same thing. Year listed could not run the class he entered in.

I don't know any exact details of that event but do know Ray is as nice a guy as you'd want to meet....and NHRA just followed the letter of the rules.....apparently he made a similar mistake and suffered the same penalty.

I really don't think NHRA has the manpower to oversee a category like stock anymore. They surely don't have people that could know all the details on cars that are 40 years old....or older!

They rely on racers to fill out there info correctly and probably to police the category a little bit as well. I would have a hard time going over to a Tech guy and pointing out something that was wrong on another guys car in my category...unless it was outright blatant cheating.....

In the past I have seen NHRA tech make things a little difficult for well known bracket racers or newbies that show up in Stock or SS......Usually a little spot check on the return road or somewhere and they find things for you to fix! I think they were or are just trying to keep you on your toes.....and it should be this way as long as they run this category....

neb5445 · 08-22-2009, 11:08 AM

Spear claimed his nova as a 1970, it looks like a 1969 version though

OLD INJUN · 08-22-2009, 12:44 PM

Now that you have beat this guy to death, an average joe racer . Does anyone know what went on in super stock with a very rich owner and his multiple event winner driver? After qualifying and winning one round he was caught with 17 inch wide tires on a super stocker.The head of tech was told of this, he looked at them, called the tower and asked what to do? they called back and said > tell him to change them, and he continued to race. would this be the same performance gain as having 11 inch tires or too big a cam in stock? WHY IS EVERYONE INTIMIDATED BY MONEY AND A MULTIPLE NATIONAL EVENT WINNER ?

08-21-2009, 08:58 PM	#91
Duane Eiskant II Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 501 Likes: 261 Liked 57 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ All i got to say is thank god i can run super stock and stay away from him....now if i could just figure out a way to stay away from fletchburger i might be ok lol.......See ya at the Rock Luke...Stop by and say hi.. __________________ Duane Eiskant 1354 Stock/Super Stock

08-22-2009, 06:30 AM	#93
tgriffith Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ I` d like to comment and ask a couple of questions,,,,,,first,,,I`m all for the rules in stock,,,the intergritiy of stock should be keptin tact as much as possible,,,,,,,shoot,,,if I was making the rules, stock would be thrown back to stone age,,,,,,,so if a car is a 76,,then it need 76 trim,seats,,motor I understand as time goes by, trim packages do have to give some because of parts not being available,,and so on... what I dont understand is a couple of items,,,,,,,,the past results show Lukes car always claimed a 68 or 69,,,,,,,,the writing of a 70 on a car that he isnt that familiar with is an easy mistake........the item I dont understand is simply this..........who gave him the weight sticker and put it on his car?????......at that point, someone should have caught that a 70 Nova couldnt run AA/SA.......OK,,,maybe not rite then but in Ihra,,,nearly as soon as you hand someone a tech card, someone is going thru the tech guide to check your info.......shouldnt this mistake been caught before the tech card hit the tower????,,,,it was obvious it was caught,,,why did they wait till after all of quailifying was over???? I can tell you first hand there is politics involved in motorsports......was this the case???.......since it was clearly a typo error.....and since it didnt effect hp/ run sheet/ or legality of his car,,why wasnt he allow to just write 69 on it????..Even though Im sure he was trying to avoid a heads up,, the 69 could run the class he desired to be in, so a reasonabe\le thinking person could plainly see there was no "scam" going on.........so why the DQ???? it would be COMPLETLY different if ANY thing changed like position on the ladder/weight/hp rating......but it wouldnt have He took responsibility and didnt try to blame someone else but those questions above are legit questions......can you just write anything on the tech card and they dont check it....I dont have a dog in the fight ,,but when you roll across the scales, dont they have that info already posted in their book????,,,shoudlnt NHRA notified Luke on his FIRST PASS across the scales ..."sorry,,,there isnt a weight for you 70 AA/SA nova,,,,need to go see tech"..... or was someone just have a "GOD complex" and trying to teach a newbie an expensive lesson instead of trying to be helpfull?????

08-22-2009, 06:46 AM	#94
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ Well said, the funny thing is Tim most of the people who complained arent on a lot of qualifing sheets well at least according to Dragracecentral.com.

08-22-2009, 07:39 AM	#95
chevy620 Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 188 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ You got that right, Herb! Keyboard Eliminators have more time to post I guess.

08-22-2009, 09:06 AM	#96
SC2422 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ All I remember from the post was "we will continue to run Stock Eliminator, and we will be successful" GULP!!! You have been warned....go get 'em Cool Hand.

08-22-2009, 10:33 AM	#97
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ I am not certain but believe Ray Skipper had a similar problem and was also DQ'ed at one event for the same thing. Year listed could not run the class he entered in. I don't know any exact details of that event but do know Ray is as nice a guy as you'd want to meet....and NHRA just followed the letter of the rules.....apparently he made a similar mistake and suffered the same penalty. I really don't think NHRA has the manpower to oversee a category like stock anymore. They surely don't have people that could know all the details on cars that are 40 years old....or older! They rely on racers to fill out there info correctly and probably to police the category a little bit as well. I would have a hard time going over to a Tech guy and pointing out something that was wrong on another guys car in my category...unless it was outright blatant cheating..... In the past I have seen NHRA tech make things a little difficult for well known bracket racers or newbies that show up in Stock or SS......Usually a little spot check on the return road or somewhere and they find things for you to fix! I think they were or are just trying to keep you on your toes.....and it should be this way as long as they run this category.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R Last edited by Rich Biebel; 08-22-2009 at 10:39 AM.

08-22-2009, 11:08 AM	#98
neb5445 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bogacki DQ Spear claimed his nova as a 1970, it looks like a 1969 version though

08-22-2009, 12:44 PM	#99
OLD INJUN Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bogacki DQ Now that you have beat this guy to death, an average joe racer . Does anyone know what went on in super stock with a very rich owner and his multiple event winner driver? After qualifying and winning one round he was caught with 17 inch wide tires on a super stocker.The head of tech was told of this, he looked at them, called the tower and asked what to do? they called back and said > tell him to change them, and he continued to race. would this be the same performance gain as having 11 inch tires or too big a cam in stock? WHY IS EVERYONE INTIMIDATED BY MONEY AND A MULTIPLE NATIONAL EVENT WINNER ? Last edited by OLD INJUN; 08-22-2009 at 09:32 PM.