my opinion - Page 10

Don Kennedy · 12-06-2009, 12:28 PM

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Ken Haase · 12-06-2009, 12:43 PM

I have a question. How does the implementation of a Pro tree cause the " touring Pro's" to get to the staging lanes in a more timely manner? And won't it just help them Don? After all, it's a 'Pro' tree and they're Pro's. Maybe we should lobby for an 'amateur' tree.

You might want to ask your doctor about Aricept.

Notice not too many 'touring pro's' are wasting their time on this thread.

Dan Fletcher · 12-06-2009, 12:46 PM

all I can say is I must really suck...with all the huge advantages afforded me I won TWO whole races this year in stock and super stock...

Mike Carr · 12-06-2009, 12:51 PM

Dan, that was part of my point earlier. Not that you suck (although Hayek probably still hates you...LOL). For all of the "supposed" advantages, the touring/Pro racers didn't even win half of any of the races run this season (Nat'l or Div). Some big advantage, huh? For all the fuss Don makes, you'd expect that those numbers should have been something like 75-80% of the races won.

Besides, Dan, you had an excuse--too busy winning in Comp.

Don Kennedy · 12-06-2009, 01:13 PM

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novassdude · 12-06-2009, 01:32 PM

As far as racers hanging back I have seen alot of non touring pros that like to do that. As others have mentioned after third call and before the first pair goes down the lanes should be closed to all.
In my opinion switching to a pro tree will not hurt the touring pros in the least. No matter what you do to the tree the pros will have more hits and adjust to it faster.
Don there will never be a fair playing field as you seem to be looking for. There is no way to have a system where ever one has the same chance to win. Some people are just better racers.

John Kristianson

Adger Smith · 12-06-2009, 01:39 PM

LOL @
Dan
See Don,
Good old Dan shows up with a short post and tries to confuse you.
He wins again!
Oh, Don are you really upset now that a Pro Sportsman has joined the discussion. Oh, how dare him join in with us non winning racers and be humble about it. Lets change the rules of the forum.... silly, isn't it.
The system/rules allow a person participate at what ever level they choose. Don,I think you(we)have the same opportunity as Dan, who makes the commitment of his life to be a student of the sport and earn a living and to excel by becoming a Champion. Granted his skill sets may be better and honed more than ours. Rules give us the opportunity to participate, not to equalize the skill sets we have.

Don Kennedy · 12-06-2009, 01:46 PM

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Don Kennedy · 12-06-2009, 01:51 PM

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Don Kennedy · 12-06-2009, 01:58 PM

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12-06-2009, 12:28 PM	#91
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: my opinion ... __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 12-06-2009 at 01:12 PM.

12-06-2009, 12:43 PM	#92
Ken Haase Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 233 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: my opinion I have a question. How does the implementation of a Pro tree cause the " touring Pro's" to get to the staging lanes in a more timely manner? And won't it just help them Don? After all, it's a 'Pro' tree and they're Pro's. Maybe we should lobby for an 'amateur' tree. You might want to ask your doctor about Aricept. Notice not too many 'touring pro's' are wasting their time on this thread.

12-06-2009, 12:46 PM	#93
Dan Fletcher Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Churchville, NY Posts: 493 Likes: 129 Liked 1,045 Times in 70 Posts	Re: my opinion all I can say is I must really suck...with all the huge advantages afforded me I won TWO whole races this year in stock and super stock... __________________ Dan Fletcher 1781 STK, SS, COMP, SG, SC DAN FLETCHER TRAILER SALES

12-06-2009, 12:51 PM	#94
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: my opinion Dan, that was part of my point earlier. Not that you suck (although Hayek probably still hates you...LOL). For all of the "supposed" advantages, the touring/Pro racers didn't even win half of any of the races run this season (Nat'l or Div). Some big advantage, huh? For all the fuss Don makes, you'd expect that those numbers should have been something like 75-80% of the races won. Besides, Dan, you had an excuse--too busy winning in Comp. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

12-06-2009, 01:13 PM	#95
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: my opinion .. __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 12-07-2009 at 11:52 PM.

12-06-2009, 01:32 PM	#96
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: my opinion As far as racers hanging back I have seen alot of non touring pros that like to do that. As others have mentioned after third call and before the first pair goes down the lanes should be closed to all. In my opinion switching to a pro tree will not hurt the touring pros in the least. No matter what you do to the tree the pros will have more hits and adjust to it faster. Don there will never be a fair playing field as you seem to be looking for. There is no way to have a system where ever one has the same chance to win. Some people are just better racers. John Kristianson

12-06-2009, 01:39 PM	#97
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: my opinion LOL @ Dan See Don, Good old Dan shows up with a short post and tries to confuse you. He wins again! Oh, Don are you really upset now that a Pro Sportsman has joined the discussion. Oh, how dare him join in with us non winning racers and be humble about it. Lets change the rules of the forum.... silly, isn't it. The system/rules allow a person participate at what ever level they choose. Don,I think you(we)have the same opportunity as Dan, who makes the commitment of his life to be a student of the sport and earn a living and to excel by becoming a Champion. Granted his skill sets may be better and honed more than ours. Rules give us the opportunity to participate, not to equalize the skill sets we have. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

12-06-2009, 01:46 PM	#98
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