PINKS...Here's Our Chance.....

[Floyd Gomez]

Jeff, With an all run format and a CIC so long as pairings are even that would be worth it. Then you showcase our Classes and we all have a chance to win. However from what has been explained, this is not what they are looking for. They still want a 32 car field that they select. With that in mind there is very little logic to support teaching people about what we do. B. How would you compare running CLASS at a National to PINKS? Even if you do I still have a better chance at taking home more money than I started with running CLASS because I already know I am IN the show. Gary you have continuously stated that this POA deal is a way to bring more people to be interested in Stock and Superstock. It has been you argument since you started this thread. Now you are saying you don't want to change the way we run but everything about the current PINKS format is different. Make up your mind man.

[Jeff Stout]

I would feel that Rich and company would listen to some of our requirements and we could run cars for the first 30 minutes of airtime until we have 32 and make that the show for the last 30 minutes. Just like what they are doing now only difference they dont pick the 32. I wouldn't think that would be a make or break deal with Rich. We wont know until we ask. I original thought about Pinks was having a Hemi shootout to get people to watch. Then go to class style event.

[Gary Smith]

Originally Posted by Floyd Gomez

Jeff, With an all run format and a CIC so long as pairings are even that would be worth it. Then you showcase our Classes and we all have a chance to win. However from what has been explained, this is not what they are looking for. They still want a 32 car field that they select. With that in mind there is very little logic to support teaching people about what we do. B. How would you compare running CLASS at a National to PINKS? Even if you do I still have a better chance at taking home more money than I started with running CLASS because I already know I am IN the show. Gary you have continuously stated that this POA deal is a way to bring more people to be interested in Stock and Superstock. It has been you argument since you started this thread. Now you are saying you don't want to change the way we run but everything about the current PINKS format is different. Make up your mind man.

Floyd you need better reading glasses....First off, I never said anything about changing anything. I have been on point about this format and idea from the start and have not strayed. The PINKS idea is still the PINKS deal, while the HRA's can do whatever they want. I simply presented the PINKS deal AS AN ALTERNATIVE AND SIMPLIFIED PROGRAM, NOT TAKING OVER, CHANGING, OR REPLACING.

Second, if Bruton Smith was going to offer a CIC program, where the hell was he a month, year or 2 years ago? Stepping into this thread with a sudden Zmax program wasn't going about it the right way, only attempt to sabotage mine.

This debate is becoming a waste of time. Please, if you're so adamant about ripping this idea apart, why not ignore it and move on, or take it to James Perrone since he apparently has all the answers to a perfect program.

[Floyd Gomez]

Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Floyd you need better reading glasses....First off, I never said anything about changing anything. I have been on point about this format and idea from the start and have not strayed. The PINKS idea is still the PINKS deal, while the HRA's can do whatever they want. I simply presented the PINKS deal AS AN ALTERNATIVE AND SIMPLIFIED PROGRAM, NOT TAKING OVER, CHANGING, OR REPLACING.

Second, if Bruton Smith was going to offer a CIC program, where the hell was he a month, year or 2 years ago? Stepping into this thread with a sudden Zmax program wasn't going about it the right way, only attempt to sabotage mine.

This debate is becoming a waste of time. Please, if you're so adamant about ripping this idea apart, why not ignore it and move on, or take it to James Perrone since he apparently has all the answers to a perfect program.

My eyesight is exceptional but thanks for asking. You may want to read both of your threads regarding this issue. You have constantly bashed NHRA and the current format we run. You have stated that this is a viable source for the future of S/SS racing and that we all should give it a try to improve support of S/SS. However when someone like me(who has every right to post on this site) wants to point out FACTS of the many differences of our class and question your statements on making the Class better by running PINKS you get your panties in a bunch. Why don't you just cancel you NHRA membership (if you already haven't) and move on. If you like PINKS and Rich so much then have at it. But don't try to make it sound like you have an alternative to our classes when the PINKS format has nothing to do with nor even remotely resembles S/SS racing. I as many other S/SS racers feel we can continue to grow our classes by EXPLAINING THE TRUE FUNDEMENTALS OF STOCK AND SUPERSTOCK racing to our youth. This is why I got the local high school involved building my new car as well as the last one. They are excited to understand the indexes and classes and cant wait to see the first pass. That is how you grow the format, not by pushing it in another direction.

[Floyd Gomez]

Also with the Bruton Smith comment. He has offered several times that I know of to hold a S/SS combo winner take all race. However, people like you and other NHRA bashers have whinned that if you can't win any money in the quarters, semi's, or runner up then they didn't want to race.

[qtrmile2]

I don't want to speak out of turn but this probably could be debated for ever. But I do think a pole would tell who is interested and who isn't. I'm sure this event isn't for everybody but some people would love to participate in something like this. I know I'll be there. I'm also interested in increasing interest and exitment in Stock and Super Stock. Heck we even love to participate in Top Stock too. Since Don Garlits is running stock maybe he would like to go. Anything to promote these cars is OK by me. I don't think anyone wants to change the way things are. Just improve them and show everybody that doesn't know about these cars how cool Stock and Super stock really is.

[Mike Graham]

Instead of bashing an idea let's try it. I am going to a combo race this weekend. It doesn't pay crap,nobody cares how much I spent on my ride,and they don't understand the index system,but It sure is fun! Anyone care to support this S/SS combo ant speedworld?
Any place to race is a good place. Except maybe Bakersfield?? Lead on Gary!

[John Kelley]

Why waste time running a "scienced out" class car engine against bullet proof bracket motors ????
Put a cheaper BRACKET motor in it and head for PINKS......IF.....IF you can get an entry that is.........:-)

[Gary Smith]

Originally Posted by Mike Graham

Instead of bashing an idea let's try it. I am going to a combo race this weekend. It doesn't pay crap,nobody cares how much I spent on my ride,and they don't understand the index system,but It sure is fun! Anyone care to support this S/SS combo ant speedworld?
Any place to race is a good place. Except maybe Bakersfield?? Lead on Gary!

Mike, I was beginning to think I went over the edge. Thank God for old friends like you & BJ, it's the motivation I needed!!!! If I can pull this off I sure hope you make it as it's been way too many years!!

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Why waste time running a "scienced out" class car engine against bullet proof bracket motors ????
Put a cheaper BRACKET motor in it and head for PINKS......IF.....IF you can get an entry that is.........:-)

. Hey John here is your chance to educate everyone watching the show about scienced out motors combos is all about. The same 50 racers and their 20 pit crew members in the stands at a Div race already know about the art of a scienced out motor. So how about educating the un- educated TV watchers and maybe you can spread the knowledge of the importance of not having a bracket motor.