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Old 07-24-2016, 11:38 PM   #91
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Hey jackass I like a lot of people have been vacationing from racing for a bit BUT I kept ALL my memberships up to date and still support the event that's close to me. Learn who people are before you talk smack cause before my vacation from racing (which is over now)- I went to more Ihra races in one year then you attended in 3. As for the ssssasa or whatever it is, well I talked to manny who called joe who talked to Pete who said it's folded up. (How's it feel?) get the point now?

Perhaps you would do better getting your point across if you had a better grasp on English and punctuation.

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Old 07-25-2016, 01:21 PM   #92
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IHRA is a business for Profit, If the company is not making money, The share holders, CEO, etc. must change things to make the business profitable.

Unfortunately, change is not a good thing when it comes to drag Racers, most racers complain about everything even without change. Once a racer starts complaining and spreads the negative vibe throughout the community, it will grow and racers loose enthusiasm. This, in my opinion is happening too much. If every racer convinced 1 other racer to try an IHRA event, Car counts would double, IHRA would make a profit, and the series would survive.
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Old 07-25-2016, 03:43 PM   #93
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IHRA is a business for Profit, If the company is not making money, The share holders, CEO, etc. must change things to make the business profitable.

Unfortunately, change is not a good thing when it comes to drag Racers, most racers complain about everything even without change. Once a racer starts complaining and spreads the negative vibe throughout the community, it will grow and racers loose enthusiasm. This, in my opinion is happening too much. If every racer convinced 1 other racer to try an IHRA event, Car counts would double, IHRA would make a profit, and the series would survive.
Great idea Rich! Lets all try and bring one additional racer with us to our next race!! Jim

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Old 07-26-2016, 10:23 AM   #94
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FWIW, Kim has been at IHRA for over 15 years. She was working there since before I did. She was always the lead designer of Drag Review. A lot of people had multiple titles and multiple responsibilities, even in the Bader era.

Despite the intent, this thread has made numerous racers consider giving up on IHRA. I was hearing it this weekend. Due to the rumor mill, a track operator even addressed the over 400 entries in attendance where I was this weekend over the PA that they will be racing next year.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:25 AM   #95
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FWIW, Kim has been at IHRA for over 15 years. She was working there since before I did. She was always the lead designer of Drag Review. A lot of people had multiple titles and multiple responsibilities, even in the Bader era.

Despite the intent, this thread has made numerous racers consider giving up on IHRA. I was hearing it this weekend. Due to the rumor mill, a track operator even addressed the over 400 entries in attendance where I was this weekend over the PA that they will be racing next year.
Thanks for that post. Admittedly I wasn't keeping up with this subject and felt a bit disappointed about my current crate motor project. I feel better now. Not sure when I'll show up again, but nonetheless I feel better.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:33 AM   #96
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:40 PM   #97
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FWIW, Kim has been at IHRA for over 15 years. She was working there since before I did. She was always the lead designer of Drag Review. A lot of people had multiple titles and multiple responsibilities, even in the Bader era.

Despite the intent, this thread has made numerous racers consider giving up on IHRA. I was hearing it this weekend. Due to the rumor mill, a track operator even addressed the over 400 entries in attendance where I was this weekend over the PA that they will be racing next year.
The intent of the thread was to warn IHRA racers that all was not well. I stand by my first post here. What I posted Kim told me IS what she told me. I realize she has been with IHRA for 17 years (her statement to me) and she IS listed as being in "Administration" which was why I called her initially. I am not really sure now what her position is currently. She spoke as if she was "in the loop" and knew the big story. After my long conversation With Scooter, as I post in my second post, some things Kim told me were confirmed and some were denied. Two big undeniable facts are
1.) The Drag Review Magazine which was the primary communication device for IHRA is gone! There is NO digital version. IRG eliminated it as an unnecessary expense. Fact!
2.) Half of the IHRA staff have either quit, retired or been let go. Fact!
Both of these facts were a huge red flag for me and many others I had spoken to previously.
I got tired of hearing the rumors and decided to do some investigation. What I was told and who I contacted has been accurately reported in my first two posts here.
I also made it very clear that both mine and Scooter's thoughts are that low car counts have brought most of the problems. Bottom line.... racers are not supporting ANY of the associations the way they have in the past. For what ever reason! Without the racers support and better car counts the Class Racing as we know it can not survive! Period! there is no rebuttal to this statement. You personally Mike can understand this, as can I.
And this is my ultimate statement on this, if you as a racer want somewhere to race, you must support the associations that are offering you a place to race! This is the key! You can't just sit back, sit at home and moan "woe is me"! I have run 9 races and set one record so far this year. I'm not finished yet! I challenge all of you racers out there to support whatever HRA or independent Association suites you, and bring at least one racer who hasn't been racing for a while with you! We hold our own destiny in our hands. What do YOU want your Class Racing future to be? Jim


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Old 07-26-2016, 02:06 PM   #98
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Boys this is not something that happened over night. Car counts have been going down ever sense TOC thing started. The last IHRA race I attended was Martin in 2011 and it was a joke for a national event race. What once had 125 plus Stockers and SuperStocker had maybe 50 and the pro show was terrible. There were more monster trucks then T/F cars there.

It's real simple go back to the model IHRA had in the early 2000's. If its not broke don't **$k with it. 80% of sportsman racers don't like a one race world champion. Its that simple.

Maybe IHRA should be asking where are the guys that ran with us 5 years ago? and why did they leave?
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Old 07-26-2016, 06:46 PM   #99
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All is not rosy here in Australia , there is some nice exaggeration and padding in that report . Thunder400/IHRA has created a major schism in the sport , and drag racing here is quite a minor sport . With only a small , compared to USA , number of racers and tracks . Simply we do not have enough racers to support 2 series . Too many chiefs and not enough Indians .


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Old 07-26-2016, 07:52 PM   #100
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What happened to IHRA that made it change to its current form?
Was business doing well when IHRA changed its format in early 2000's?
Fwiw when Super Stock Magazine die, a lot died with it!
I loved that magazine better than HR, CC, MT et al!

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