NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson - Page 11

HandOverFist · 05-16-2014, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cudadoug

In theory maybe. At my local track, they have NO WAY of checking the validity of an NHRA permanent number going through tech. Even if they could, said suspended racer could show up without his NHRA # on the car and no one would be the wiser.

Agreed...nor would they be inclined to pursue it.

Stocker 2 · 05-20-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NORVELL BOWERS

Just so evereyone is clear, they did check Don's lift with his lifters in place, we pulled his out because last time I went thru tear down we put in a solid lifter in place of the hydraulic to check lift and I thought they would this time but they did not.

Are you saying they checked the lift with the hydraulic lifter in place and it read too big?

NORVELL BOWERS · 05-20-2014, 01:07 PM

Yes it did,

Jim Wahl · 05-20-2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cudadoug

In theory maybe. At my local track, they have NO WAY of checking the validity of an NHRA permanent number going through tech. Even if they could, said suspended racer could show up without his NHRA # on the car and no one would be the wiser.

True, however, for any race where any info was relayed to Glendora, it would be caught and the red flag would fly. Jim

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Jim Wahl · 05-20-2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NORVELL BOWERS

Just so evereyone is clear, they did check Don's lift with his lifters in place, we pulled his out because last time I went thru tear down we put in a solid lifter in place of the hydraulic to check lift and I thought they would this time but they did not. NHRA should get off of this fine for sportsman racers or the car count will keep going down, but maybe that is the plan to start with? Seems like something the government would do!

Wait, they checked his cam with HIS HYDRAULIC LIFTER? This is an incorrect procedure in anyone's book. The cam will never check correctly. I would be interested to know why the tech guy did it this way. This is grounds for dropping the violation I would think by anyone's standards. NHRA should do the right thing here.

Bleeding the sportsman racer by fining them is wrong! It's tough enough to afford to race for the average racer as it is. Time off is sufficient punishment. I truly hope NHRA will take another look at this new punishment, that as far as I know, has never been published anywhere or car counts will continue to plummet and IHRA's will grow. Jim

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NORVELL BOWERS · 05-21-2014, 06:06 PM

I agree with you Jim, are they trying to run off the sportsman racer?

Jim Hanig · 05-21-2014, 08:47 PM

They know the sportsmsn racer could not be chased off no matter what.

Jim Wahl · 05-21-2014, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hanig

They know the sportsmsn racer could not be chased off no matter what.

I partially agree with you Jim. There are those who will continue put up with these types of harassment until they can no longer race. But......The Sportsman car count has plummeted in the last 5 to 6 years. Car counts are half of what they used to be. Two reasons, financial and the BS factor. Jim

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Jim Wahl · 05-21-2014, 11:00 PM

This is actually one of 9 emails I have received in references to the Don Davidson fining. I will not add the name of the writer as I don't have their permission to post it however I think it perfectly sums up the situation.

"Jim,

It's good to see you have keep the Davidson fine issue active.

I don't understand why more people aren't blasting NHRA over this outrage and most don't even seem to understand the issue. You seem to get it, that monetary punishment has no place in sportsman racing. In fact I would argue it has no place in drag racing. NHRA has survived well from it's beginning in the 1950's until recently without fines. The rules infractions were dealt with in a manner that everyone understood and all knew what to expect when there was an infraction.

I don't think most understand how serious this is or where it could lead if it goes unchallenged. Every infraction could carry with it the potential for a fine. Not passing fuel check, under the weight minimum, wheelbase off and of course any and all issues found during tear-down even if it is a mistake by NHRA inspectors. Plus the possibility of the car owner being fined along with the driver if the driver is not the owner to mention a few.

Of all the issues raised by racers with respect to NHRA not once on any forum or in any conversation have I ever read or heard anyone ask for an increase in punishment of any kind for any rules violation. Leaving one to wonder what is the agenda of NHRA by this new use of fines?

Please keep the discussion going so hopefully some may begin to get it."

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spike1 · 05-21-2014, 11:35 PM

Just a little more on this that came from a reliable source. All teardown infractions will now cost a fine instead of suspension ( blatant may also get suspension). Reason given is NHRA thinks that most racers would rather pay fine and continue racing (instead of suspension) and NHRA would rather collect entry fees (not to mention fines). If you don't like it, you best start calling NHRA.

05-20-2014, 01:07 PM	#103
NORVELL BOWERS Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sulphur Springs Posts: 76 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson Yes it did,

05-21-2014, 06:06 PM	#106
NORVELL BOWERS Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sulphur Springs Posts: 76 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson I agree with you Jim, are they trying to run off the sportsman racer?

05-21-2014, 08:47 PM	#107
Jim Hanig Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pukwana SD Posts: 860 Likes: 554 Liked 99 Times in 49 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson They know the sportsmsn racer could not be chased off no matter what.

05-21-2014, 11:00 PM	#109
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 668 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson This is actually one of 9 emails I have received in references to the Don Davidson fining. I will not add the name of the writer as I don't have their permission to post it however I think it perfectly sums up the situation. "Jim, It's good to see you have keep the Davidson fine issue active. I don't understand why more people aren't blasting NHRA over this outrage and most don't even seem to understand the issue. You seem to get it, that monetary punishment has no place in sportsman racing. In fact I would argue it has no place in drag racing. NHRA has survived well from it's beginning in the 1950's until recently without fines. The rules infractions were dealt with in a manner that everyone understood and all knew what to expect when there was an infraction. I don't think most understand how serious this is or where it could lead if it goes unchallenged. Every infraction could carry with it the potential for a fine. Not passing fuel check, under the weight minimum, wheelbase off and of course any and all issues found during tear-down even if it is a mistake by NHRA inspectors. Plus the possibility of the car owner being fined along with the driver if the driver is not the owner to mention a few. Of all the issues raised by racers with respect to NHRA not once on any forum or in any conversation have I ever read or heard anyone ask for an increase in punishment of any kind for any rules violation. Leaving one to wonder what is the agenda of NHRA by this new use of fines? Please keep the discussion going so hopefully some may begin to get it." . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

05-21-2014, 11:35 PM	#110
spike1 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 96 Likes: 120 Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts	Re: NHRA Levied Actions Against Don Davidson Just a little more on this that came from a reliable source. All teardown infractions will now cost a fine instead of suspension ( blatant may also get suspension). Reason given is NHRA thinks that most racers would rather pay fine and continue racing (instead of suspension) and NHRA would rather collect entry fees (not to mention fines). If you don't like it, you best start calling NHRA.