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Old 12-13-2016, 10:16 PM   #101
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My 2 cents.

Julie, is that taxed? LOL
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Old 12-13-2016, 10:33 PM   #102
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I don't think there ever was direct voting, and I don't think anyone is suggesting that now.

What people would probably like to see is having members elect the board of directors, maybe every 2-4 years.

Having the board of directors elect themselves, or each other, or how ever they're doing it, just is not good for the sport.
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Old 12-13-2016, 11:54 PM   #103
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My 2 cents.

Julie, is that taxed? LOL
And subject to Obamacare penalty! 😉
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Old 12-14-2016, 08:51 AM   #104
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I'm still around, but I'm a CPA, not an attorney.
Thank you Julie! I actually remembered that ^^^^^^^^^^! I am mainly concerned about their tax status as I believe if there is any kind of "discussion" to be had, it would revolve around that. Let us not forget that the original charter was based on "getting us off of the streets" and not spectators in the seats and TV packages. As it stands now, with the quotas, lots of us are basically "back in the streets" again being unable to enter our local National Events.
I agree that every member having a vote would get rather crazy (which is the way it used to be) but that could be thinned out by requiring a current permanent number as the "voter registration".
As I had said earlier, at the very least our SRAC members should have a vote.
And Julie, thank you again for responding.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:25 AM   #105
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Thank you Julie! I actually remembered that ^^^^^^^^^^! I am mainly concerned about their tax status as I believe if there is any kind of "discussion" to be had, it would revolve around that. Let us not forget that the original charter was based on "getting us off of the streets" and not spectators in the seats and TV packages. As it stands now, with the quotas, lots of us are basically "back in the streets" again being unable to enter our local National Events.
I agree that every member having a vote would get rather crazy (which is the way it used to be) but that could be thinned out by requiring a current permanent number as the "voter registration".
As I had said earlier, at the very least our SRAC members should have a vote.
And Julie, thank you again for responding.
Billy,
I think you are confusing a Competition Number with an NHRA Membership Number. While you are required to have a NHRA membership before you can apply for a Competition number to enter NHRA events, you can be a full "dues paying" NHRA member without having a competition number. NHRA members receive the Dragster and get other benefits etc., and they would all get a vote, not just drivers.
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:43 AM   #106
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I think you are confusing a Competition Number with an NHRA Membership Number. While you are required to have a NHRA membership before you can apply for a Competition number to enter NHRA events, you can be a full "dues paying" NHRA member without having a competition number. NHRA members receive the Dragster and get other benefits etc., and they would all get a vote, not just drivers.
Bobby, I fully understand the difference. I should have said Competition Number instead of Permanent Number.
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:22 AM   #107
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Thank you Julie! I actually remembered that ^^^^^^^^^^! I am mainly concerned about their tax status as I believe if there is any kind of "discussion" to be had, it would revolve around that. Let us not forget that the original charter was based on "getting us off of the streets" and not spectators in the seats and TV packages. As it stands now, with the quotas, lots of us are basically "back in the streets" again being unable to enter our local National Events.
I agree that every member having a vote would get rather crazy (which is the way it used to be) but that could be thinned out by requiring a current permanent number as the "voter registration".
As I had said earlier, at the very least our SRAC members should have a vote.
And Julie, thank you again for responding.
But it's not just about the sportsman racers who want to enter national events. There are NHRA member-sanctioned tracks where racers can race in a safe environment. They have youth safety/education programs, junior dragster series, etc. Just because we have been impacted doesn't mean that NHRA isn't operating under the conditions necessary to keep their tax-exempt status.
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:22 AM   #108
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Bobby, I fully understand the difference. I should have said Competition Number instead of Permanent Number.
So why shouldn't a paying member who does not have a Competition number be able to vote?
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Old 12-14-2016, 11:23 AM   #109
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Tell people they are raising the entry fee...no big deal.
Tell people they are raising membership fee...no big deal.
Tell people their classes are becoming obsolete b/c of corporate intervention...we can live with that.
Tell people that National event quotas are being reduced to nothing...that hurts but now we will just go to more divisionals.
Tell people they can't get to the track a week early to sit in a muddy grass lot just so they can be the first in the gate to sit in another muddy grass lot for two more days before the race actually starts...let's boycott the bastards!!

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Old 12-14-2016, 11:41 AM   #110
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tell people they are raising the entry fee...no big deal.
Tell people they are raising membership fee...no big deal.
Tell people their classes are becoming obsolete b/c of corporate intervention...we can live with that.
Tell people that national event quotas are being reduced to nothing...that hurts but now we will just go to more divisionals.
Tell people they can't get to the track a week early to sit in a muddy grass lot just so they can be the first in the gate to sit in another muddy grass lot for two more days before the race actually starts...let's boycott the bastards!!
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