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Old 12-15-2009, 04:24 PM   #121
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Mark, I just did the math. Moving the indexes hurts WAY more people than changing the trigger helps!
Billy, I doubt that you can go by those figures. The guys at the bottom are showing us what they got, and it ain't much, in most cases.
Meanwhile, the guys at the top are protecting their combos. Can't say I blame them. That's the system we currently have.
Take a look at the top 10 at the recent Vegas ( altitude) vs. Pomona .
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:37 PM   #122
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Just heard from a very reliable source they can't/haven't got it
all figured out in Calif. Haven't even been keeping up with all
the runs since they took it away from 'old reliable'.(Trying to
save money so they could give it to the higher ups, I guess).
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:10 PM   #123
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Toby asked; what's the difference in my scenario. The difference is , Mr -.06 won't be able to win an eliminator, as well he shouldn't.

I don't think you understood my post. If you lower the indexes 3 tenths. Then somebody (not necessarily Mr. -0.06 from last year), can run -0.06 at Indy next year and win the next national.

If Mr. -0.06 just happens to pick up 3 tenths from last year and runs -0.06 at Indy next year with the lowered indexes he could possibly win the next national event, right?

You could lower the indexes again and again and again, but there will always be somebody that could be -0.06 and not qualify at Indy and win the next eliminator. Follow me?

So what has changed then?


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Old 12-15-2009, 05:20 PM   #124
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I don't think you understood my post. If you lower the indexes 3 tenths. Then somebody (not necessarily Mr. -0.06 from last year), can run -0.06 at Indy this year and win the next national.

If Mr. -0.06 just happens to pick up 3 tenths from last year and runs -0.06 at Indy this year with the lowered indexes he could possibly win the next national event, right?

You could lower the indexes again and again and again, but there will always be somebody that could be -0.06 and not qualify at Indy and win the next eliminator. Follow me?

So what has changed then?


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The -.06 under guy picks up three tenths. That's awesome, he should be congratulated.

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:23 PM   #125
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I love rumors any body else got anything to add. i just spent money for a new set off heads for NOTHING.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:27 PM   #126
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The -.06 under guy picks up three tenths. That's awesome, he should be congratulated.

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Yes, he should, but lowering the indexes doesn't prevent the scenario that Mark has described from happening again and again.


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Old 12-15-2009, 05:27 PM   #127
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I don't think you understood my post. If you lower the indexes 3 tenths. Then somebody (not necessarily Mr. -0.06 from last year), can run -0.06 at Indy next year and win the next national.

If Mr. -0.06 just happens to pick up 3 tenths from last year and runs -0.06 at Indy next year with the lowered indexes he could possibly win the next national event, right?

You could lower the indexes again and again and again, but there will always be somebody that could be -0.06 and not qualify at Indy and win the next eliminator. Follow me?

So what has changed then?




-Toby

I follow you, Toby . I'm not sure you follow me though.

What has changed is the guys at the bottom will have to deal with a tougher performance standard, not some ridiculously soft index that has been raised up two tenths from 30 years ago.
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Old 12-15-2009, 05:33 PM   #128
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I follow you, Toby . I'm not sure you follow me though.

What has changed is the guys at the bottom will have to deal with a tougher performance standard, not some ridiculously soft index that has been raised up two tenths from 30 years ago.

Why didn't you just say that in the first place!


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Old 12-15-2009, 05:34 PM   #129
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I love rumors any body else got anything to add. i just spent money for a new set off heads for NOTHING.
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How do you know they're worth nothing? You haven't even bolted them on yet! LOL!

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Old 12-15-2009, 06:36 PM   #130
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I guess its begining to look like a rumor right now. It seems as though most on this site have gotten their panties in a wad over nothing. IF NHRA was going to post this they might wait until the day they close for the Christmas Holidays so they wouldnt have to hear all of the whining and crying until after Jan 2nd. All that has happened is a bunch of "what ifs and why fors". Dont ya just love it. Oh well....It gives everyone something to do while its to cold to race.....LOL.

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