Live from Indy!!! US Nationals

[Larry Hill]

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Chuck Norton

Being old really sucks!! First, I'm not at Indy and that's enough of a frustration in itself but now, I can't tell if I've got an "east coast" or a "west coast" rulebook. I missed most of both football games on TV last night because I was trying to determine which book I really have. I know that none of the contributors to this critical discussion would deliberately mislead any of the loyal readers so I'm becoming even more confused than usual.

I can't find any reference to dry ice in my book. I've looked on page 250 where it talks about cool cans, Freon, wet rags, etc. and it doesn't mention dry ice. I've looked on page 105 where the fuel system limitations for Stock Eliminator are described, right down to where we can't put the (legal) cool can and it doesn't mention dry ice. All I can find is the paragraph on page 250 where it says that we can't artificially cool or heat the fuel. Putting ice (dry or wet) on the intake manifold seems to me to not be cooling the fuel, but cooling a piece of metal. I'm thinking that putting dry ice in the fuel cell would be considering cooling the fuel? Running an intercooler to cool the incoming air would be illegal since it involves changing the ambient temperature of the air that enters the induction system and that's specifically banned. The next sentence says that all towels and ice (type not specified) must be removed before leaving the staging "area" and I interpret that to mean the staging lanes. Larry/Patsy, where am I going wrong? Putting a cold substance (not Freon, but ice of any type) on the manifold must be accomplishing the same thing (cooling a piece of metal). As long as everything is removed before pulling out of the staging lanes, it seems to be OK according to the book they sent me?

So, Scott, was I sent an "east" or "west" coast book? Or, am I completely off base and looking in the wrong place? Assuming that I have a "west" coast book since I drive by NHRA offices almost every day, could someone please e-mail me the wording of an "east" coast book so that i can compare and contract the differences?

Since I have to pay extra for a book for 2010 anyway, I want to be sure to get them both.

Keep having fun. At least some of you are there!!

c

chuck.....I think what they mean is an EAST COAST TECH INSPECTION vs a WEST COAST TECH INSPECTION (tear down)).....lol. Ed....Im not clear on the MID WEST interpatation either. Maybe its a little of both ? Does anyone know what its called in the south ?

[Larry Hill]

[bsa633]

Chuck...you still got it..giving lessons..just wish you were at Indy filling out this thread with your observations!

cheers!

[Larry Hill]

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[herbjr]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Does anyone know what its called in the south ?

Terry its the south. Helmet and seat belts only.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

We were going to have a picture of Beaudrou and Jimmy Defrank in staging before B/SA semi-finals, but Jimmy declined to have his picture made for reasons unknown. But it was really "COOL" to see Darrel Wikle and another crewmember with gloves on to remove the dry ice from the intake manifold and to carefully place the carb base plate (which appeared to be non-stock) that had been frozen in dry ice in the trunk. Evidently the "left coast rulebook" is different from the "right coast rulebook".

And on the winning hand (Jim Beaudro) used 10 # of ice in zip lock bags to cool the engine and cool water running thru the radiator. The good old fashioned way (and legal).

Congratulations Jim Beaudro for your class win and maybe tomorrow Jimmy will take time to read the "East of the Mississippi rulebook", which is the one everyone gets in the mail.

Larry

p.s. I know what I saw.

Maybe when you can tell the difference between a carb base plate and an air cleaner people will take you serious and you will understand the rule book as it is written. I guess they should have let you take the picture, that would have made it all better and they wouldn't have been called cheaters. What a joke.

[Chad Mahlosky]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

Maybe when you can tell the difference between a carb base plate and an air cleaner people will take you serious and you will understand the rule book as it is written. I guess they should have let you take the picture, that would have made it all better and they wouldn't have been called cheaters. What a joke.

While Larry and Patsy provides us (those not there) with photos, details, and eye witness accounts of what is going on at the US Nationals, you have provided nothing to this thread with the above statement. I live in Kentucky, and I thought dry ice was illegal too. He pointed it out to the official, nothing was done...that should be the end of it until there is a statement made from above regarding the legality of said dry ice/liquid nitrogen.

[Larry Hill]

In the barn this afternoon: Johnny Fisher, Mitch Truman, and Tibor Kadar. Kadar is pulling a piston.

On Truman's win yesterday--he was running Joey Wilkes who got timed out in the finals. Something about the throttle cable ( I think) broke.

More later.

Patsy

[Floyd Staggs]

Harry, you are an idiot. That was a simple mistake and the Hill's do us all a favor by taking pictures and telling us what is going on. Leave them alone. Keep your criticism to your self.