2012 Race Camaro

[Wayne Kerr]

There are 2 sides to the story regarding "Stock" eliminator, those with older cars that "grew up" in stock eliminator, and those that embrace the new cars.

Bottom line, times change....either you stay up with the times or get left behind.

NHRA has specific rules that allowed the manufacturers to build the new cars for stock.
They are legal Glendora approved it .

Now, as far as stock goes, I can cite a couple of things that you stock vets can't argue with;
Can you fit a 9x30 tire on a 67 nova for example, without modifications that are not permitted under the rules? NO
Did your cars come from the factory with hoods that have a 1" gap at the back? NO

If you disagree with these 2 points, I can get really serious about your beloved older stockers.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

[SS Engine Guy]

There really are 2 sides: work your ***** off is one. suddenly fast is the other.

Putting drag racing in the same shape as the economy. Instant gratification.

Times are changing, that is for sure. But are they changing for the better or worse?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr

There are 2 sides to the story regarding "Stock" eliminator, those with older cars that "grew up" in stock eliminator, and those that embrace the new cars.
Bottom line, times change....either you stay up with the times or get left behind.
See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

There's a whole lot more than 2 sides to the story but any Racer that's really "lived" Stock Eliminator through the years already knows that.
The people getting "left behind" are the ones buying the new combos and not having to flog them to go fast (not counting the Spikes, Bartons, etc, they get it). They remind me of the streetrodders that go to a fab shop, write a check, and want a red one that has all of the s##t in it that his Escalade does.
Bottom line, times change.... but not always for the better.

[MKopp5787]

Trying to convince my dad in maybe trading in some camaros for one of these. Not really happening. Maybe GM would do a COPO for COPO trade? ? ?

[Jim Kaekel]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

There's a whole lot more than 2 sides to the story but any Racer that's really "lived" Stock Eliminator through the years already knows that.
The people getting "left behind" are the ones buying the new combos and not having to flog them to go fast (not counting the Spikes, Bartons, etc, they get it). They remind me of the streetrodders that go to a fab shop, write a check, and want a red one that has all of the s##t in it that his Escalade does.
Bottom line, times change.... but not always for the better.

Very true and very well said. The good thing is that most of these know-it-alls with too much money will be out of the sport in the next year or two and on to something different.

[aspen7709]

I personally saw this abomination at SEMA this past week and had a lengthy discussion with the reps from the performance and engineering dept. The car HAS a 9 inch in it and I asked does that mean Chevelles and old camaros get one? His reply was NO those are exclusive to the new cars. If we have a beef with it we are to take it up with NHRA. These cars are " NOT HIS PROBLEM" If we dont wanna get beat by them,buy one. They are purposely building these ringers to win. Suggested classes listed with the car were AA/ for the supercharged and A/ for the non. He also said that NO MONEY has changed hands between GM and NHRA to allow them in. The car is basically a superstock car let in to convince us to buy new cars. I also saw the V-10 apart with its CNC'd throttle body and parts. What a joke.

[Stocker 2]

Originally Posted by aspen7709

...The car is basically a superstock car let in to convince us to buy new cars...

...but if you want to race your real 2010-11 Camaro you bought to drive on the street and someday decide to set it up for Stock class, you will not be allowed to race those cars in Stock.

Why? Because all the new "real cars" the public buys and drives on the street are not in the NHRA classguide and probably never will be.

That does not say much for the future of Stock Eliminator.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Stocker 2

...but if you want to race your real 2010-11 Camaro you bought to drive on the street and someday decide to set it up for Stock class, you will not be allowed to race those cars in Stock.

Why? Because all the new "real cars" the public buys and drives on the street are not in the NHRA classguide and probably never will be.

That does not say much for the future of Stock Eliminator.

The 2010 Camaro is in the guide. It is in the wrong class (which is a whole other issue), but it is in the guide.

[Michael Beard]

It's actually going to be called "American Muscle"

So that's what AM stands for! I thought it was A/Modified.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by aspen7709

I personally saw this abomination at SEMA this past week and had a lengthy discussion with the reps from the performance and engineering dept. The car HAS a 9 inch in it and I asked does that mean Chevelles and old camaros get one? His reply was NO those are exclusive to the new cars. If we have a beef with it we are to take it up with NHRA. These cars are " NOT HIS PROBLEM" If we dont wanna get beat by them,buy one. They are purposely building these ringers to win. Suggested classes listed with the car were AA/ for the supercharged and A/ for the non. He also said that NO MONEY has changed hands between GM and NHRA to allow them in. The car is basically a superstock car let in to convince us to buy new cars. I also saw the V-10 apart with its CNC'd throttle body and parts. What a joke.

funny, a friend of mine talked to them as well about the same issues and got a very different response than "not his problem".