Coolest or Oddest Combo..... - Page 16

treessavoy · 02-27-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Haning

That thing must be fast to be heads up with Bucky!

Sean, looks to me like he's giving Bucky a half car before he leaves......this thing must be real fast!

Jim

treessavoy · 02-27-2009, 12:48 PM

I remember a guy running in the AHRA in MP with a 1950 Stude coupe with a Pontiac Sprint OHC six 4bbl motor and a Corvette 4 speed and a '56 olds rear.

Don't remember the times but it was quick and held track records all over Texas....he drove it on the street also.

Jim

bill dedman · 02-27-2009, 02:02 PM

Well, this wasn't a Stocker, but this was the weirdest thing I ever saw: Hot Rod magazine, way back, had an article about a '40 or ';41 Willys coupe that had a supecharged V8 under the hood that was force-fed pressurized air from a GMC blower that was driven by a 4-cylinder industrial engine of some kind. The blower and the auxialliary engine were both in the TRUNK!!!

It was called "Blown by Proxy".... lol!

Strange, indeed...

Mike Carr · 02-27-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Sean, looks to me like he's giving Bucky a half car before he leaves......this thing must be real fast!

Jim

LOL. Not that fast. Been -.97 under with it (14.93 on a 15.90). Actually, I did leave first on Bucky by about a hundreth and a half. Meaning, against his car, I led the race for the first, oh, six inches or so, maybe.

treessavoy · 02-28-2009, 10:59 PM

In the '70's there was a guy racing in the AHRA that was running a four cylinder ChevyII...but it wasn't the standard 4cyl.

It was a 283 cut in half with a hand made manifold with a Carter backed by a 4 speed with a '58 Olds rear.

It sounded really strange and ran well. Wish I had paid more attention to the engineering.

Jim

bill dedman · 03-01-2009, 12:52 AM

There was a company named "SESCO" that sawed 283's in half, making an inline 4 for midget racers.
They were pretty popular in Midget racing back in the '80s.

The bore-center spacing on a Chevy II four cylinder is 4.40", just like a 265-400 small block. A SBC cylinder head can be "installed" on one by re-drilling the hold-down bolt holes, and adding some material to the outside of the block at the top, so the bottom row of hold-down head bolts have something to get hold of. Instant cross-flow head....

My partner, Harry Sparks (we had a Stocker that we share-cropped) and I were building a bug-eyed Sprite "gasser" with just such an engine in 1980. Had the frame and front-end built, a 'glass 1-piece front cap, a narrowed Chevy rear end, and a Brodix head for it, but, I moved away. He never finished the car, but I think it would have done some damage in the VW class. He still has it, but rules have obsoleted the combination, now.

AA/Different....

X-TECH MAN · 03-11-2009, 07:40 PM

I was reminded this evening to mention a 1960 Pontiac station wagon owned and raced by a Paul Longnecker I think out of Ohio. He latter raced Top fuel and prior to that he raced in Pro Stock during the 1970 year in a Camaro. The old Pontiac wagon had a 288 or 292 small block Chevy with fuel injection sticking out of the hood like the old altered wheel base Mopars had. It rand E/G or F/G and weighed about 4400 lbs. It had a Mopar A833 4- speed trans and a 6.17 geared Dana 60 rear that lasted only about 13 to 14 runs before needing replacement (ouch). It was equiped with the factory 8 lug wheels and pulled wheel stands approx 2-3 feet high on each pass. At least it was different.

mtkawboy · 03-12-2009, 11:19 AM

The E/G late 40s early 50s Packard that looked like an upside down bathtub with the 292 Chevy in it that left at 10 grand was impressive too. The name was Koeffel or something close to that

X-TECH MAN · 03-12-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mtkawboy

the e/g late 40s early 50s packard that looked like an upside down bathtub with the 292 chevy in it that left at 10 grand was impressive too. The name was koeffel or something close to that

"flintstone flyer"

bill dedman · 03-12-2009, 01:58 PM

Dave Koffel became a Mopar factory guy in the '60s and still is active, as far as I can tell, within the Mopar community. This is one of his websites: http://www.b1heads.com/

But, his "Flintstone Flyer" SBC-powered Packard, and later, Studebaker Lark Gas Coupes were originally the cars responsible for his notoriety. The Mopars came later.

02-27-2009, 12:48 PM	#152
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... I remember a guy running in the AHRA in MP with a 1950 Stude coupe with a Pontiac Sprint OHC six 4bbl motor and a Corvette 4 speed and a '56 olds rear. Don't remember the times but it was quick and held track records all over Texas....he drove it on the street also. Jim

02-27-2009, 02:02 PM	#153
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... Well, this wasn't a Stocker, but this was the weirdest thing I ever saw: Hot Rod magazine, way back, had an article about a '40 or ';41 Willys coupe that had a supecharged V8 under the hood that was force-fed pressurized air from a GMC blower that was driven by a 4-cylinder industrial engine of some kind. The blower and the auxialliary engine were both in the TRUNK!!! It was called "Blown by Proxy".... lol! Strange, indeed... __________________ Bill

02-28-2009, 10:59 PM	#155
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... In the '70's there was a guy racing in the AHRA that was running a four cylinder ChevyII...but it wasn't the standard 4cyl. It was a 283 cut in half with a hand made manifold with a Carter backed by a 4 speed with a '58 Olds rear. It sounded really strange and ran well. Wish I had paid more attention to the engineering. Jim

03-01-2009, 12:52 AM	#156
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... There was a company named "SESCO" that sawed 283's in half, making an inline 4 for midget racers. They were pretty popular in Midget racing back in the '80s. The bore-center spacing on a Chevy II four cylinder is 4.40", just like a 265-400 small block. A SBC cylinder head can be "installed" on one by re-drilling the hold-down bolt holes, and adding some material to the outside of the block at the top, so the bottom row of hold-down head bolts have something to get hold of. Instant cross-flow head.... My partner, Harry Sparks (we had a Stocker that we share-cropped) and I were building a bug-eyed Sprite "gasser" with just such an engine in 1980. Had the frame and front-end built, a 'glass 1-piece front cap, a narrowed Chevy rear end, and a Brodix head for it, but, I moved away. He never finished the car, but I think it would have done some damage in the VW class. He still has it, but rules have obsoleted the combination, now. AA/Different.... __________________ Bill

03-11-2009, 07:40 PM	#157
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... I was reminded this evening to mention a 1960 Pontiac station wagon owned and raced by a Paul Longnecker I think out of Ohio. He latter raced Top fuel and prior to that he raced in Pro Stock during the 1970 year in a Camaro. The old Pontiac wagon had a 288 or 292 small block Chevy with fuel injection sticking out of the hood like the old altered wheel base Mopars had. It rand E/G or F/G and weighed about 4400 lbs. It had a Mopar A833 4- speed trans and a 6.17 geared Dana 60 rear that lasted only about 13 to 14 runs before needing replacement (ouch). It was equiped with the factory 8 lug wheels and pulled wheel stands approx 2-3 feet high on each pass. At least it was different.

03-12-2009, 11:19 AM	#158
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 281 Likes: 183 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... The E/G late 40s early 50s Packard that looked like an upside down bathtub with the 292 Chevy in it that left at 10 grand was impressive too. The name was Koeffel or something close to that

03-12-2009, 01:58 PM	#160
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Coolest or Oddest Combo..... Dave Koffel became a Mopar factory guy in the '60s and still is active, as far as I can tell, within the Mopar community. This is one of his websites: http://www.b1heads.com/ But, his "Flintstone Flyer" SBC-powered Packard, and later, Studebaker Lark Gas Coupes were originally the cars responsible for his notoriety. The Mopars came later. __________________ Bill