Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers - Page 16

Don Kennedy · 01-05-2020, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskool

So that was not a GT car ?

No Bales ran a 455 SD

oldskool · 01-06-2020, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by coolcanman

... it's called a cam driven distributor made by jesel or MSD originally developed for comp cars with sheet metal intakes...

So, is that part of the crank trigger system. I located that for a Pontiac. Didn't find the dist, except for Chevy.

Hey, sorry to be so ignorant about this. I've seen pics of 'em on Pontiac drag cars. Just have never learned anything about 'em.

Is there a power advantage ? OR ?

john corcoran jr · 01-06-2020, 02:25 AM

Ok, from what I remember, Bob Bales had a Super Stock 1973 SD455 Firebird back in the pre head porting days. He later fielded a 3rd gen. Firebird with the Super Duty engine. That was the car that had the hatch glass shatter when something that looked like a fire extinguisher exploded in the car in the pits at Pomona. After a hiatus, he debuted the Grand Am which had a Chevy powerplant. Bruce Fulper recently had the 3rd gen. car for sale on this site.
If I do this right, you will see something some of you may recognize. Tibor Kadar won Division 7 with this car a couple of years ago. He bought it from Stacy McCarty. The car started out as a body in white. Since I bought it, it has new paint, carpet, chromoly cage, Goodyear radials, and swapped out the 6x headed 400 for an SD455. God willing, the car will be in Norwalk to start the season. If things go really well I will drag out the T/A stocker too.
Ok no photo tonight. Will try again in the morning.

oldskool · 01-06-2020, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by john corcoran jr

Ok, from what I remember, Bob Bales had a Super Stock 1973 SD455 Firebird back in the pre head porting days. He later fielded a 3rd gen. Firebird with the Super Duty engine. That was the car that had the hatch glass shatter when something that looked like a fire extinguisher exploded in the car in the pits at Pomona. After a hiatus, he debuted the Grand Am which had a Chevy powerplant. Bruce Fulper recently had the 3rd gen. car for sale on this site.
If I do this right, you will see something some of you may recognize. Tibor Kadar won Division 7 with this car a couple of years ago. He bought it from Stacy McCarty. The car started out as a body in white. Since I bought it, it has new paint, carpet, chromoly cage, Goodyear radials, and swapped out the 6x headed 400 for an SD455. God willing, the car will be in Norwalk to start the season. If things go really well I will drag out the T/A stocker too.
Ok no photo tonight. Will try again in the morning.

Great info ! Thanks !

And good luck with both cars !

oldskool · 01-06-2020, 03:57 AM

So, what about the "Macho Poncho", from div 7 ?

A close-up shows Bob Bales on it, right above the rear tire.

BRINK · 01-06-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oldskool

Last pic I have is from '19 US Nats. He's running SS/MA.

Wonder what you'd have do to his car to run GT, without makin any engine changes ?

I know very little about GT rules.

Can you just tech in as a GT car, even tho you've made no changes ?

No changes are necessary. Just the difference in indexes. SS/MA is 11.85, whereas GT/QA is 11.75.

oldskool · 01-06-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BRINK

No changes are necessary. Just the difference in indexes. SS/MA is 11.85, whereas GT/QA is 11.75.

Well, that definitely settles that. I may be the last to know.

I figure that won't be the last thing I learn thru these threads. But, learning is a good thing !

coolcanman · 01-06-2020, 09:58 PM

On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes

oldskool · 01-06-2020, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcanman

On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes

Yeah, I guessed that when I didn't find a Pontiac dist listed.

oldskool · 01-06-2020, 10:55 PM

I think Norman Warling mentioned that Carroll was gonna try an iron head 428, in his GT car. They have a 10hp less factor than the alum heads. So, has there been any testing done to see how much power difference the alum E-heads make, if any ?

Do ya'll know of any other GT cars that have run an iron head 428 ?

01-06-2020, 02:25 AM	#153
john corcoran jr Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: darien, il Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers Ok, from what I remember, Bob Bales had a Super Stock 1973 SD455 Firebird back in the pre head porting days. He later fielded a 3rd gen. Firebird with the Super Duty engine. That was the car that had the hatch glass shatter when something that looked like a fire extinguisher exploded in the car in the pits at Pomona. After a hiatus, he debuted the Grand Am which had a Chevy powerplant. Bruce Fulper recently had the 3rd gen. car for sale on this site. If I do this right, you will see something some of you may recognize. Tibor Kadar won Division 7 with this car a couple of years ago. He bought it from Stacy McCarty. The car started out as a body in white. Since I bought it, it has new paint, carpet, chromoly cage, Goodyear radials, and swapped out the 6x headed 400 for an SD455. God willing, the car will be in Norwalk to start the season. If things go really well I will drag out the T/A stocker too. Ok no photo tonight. Will try again in the morning. Last edited by john corcoran jr; 01-06-2020 at 03:22 AM. Reason: photo loading failed

01-06-2020, 03:57 AM	#155
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers So, what about the "Macho Poncho", from div 7 ? A close-up shows Bob Bales on it, right above the rear tire. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-06-2020 at 04:24 AM.

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coolcanman Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 34 Likes: 1 Liked 20 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes

01-06-2020, 10:55 PM	#160
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers I think Norman Warling mentioned that Carroll was gonna try an iron head 428, in his GT car. They have a 10hp less factor than the alum heads. So, has there been any testing done to see how much power difference the alum E-heads make, if any ? Do ya'll know of any other GT cars that have run an iron head 428 ?