No Blinders

[B/S 428]

Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in, Ive been bracket racing since the 80s and have had so much fun doing this, no blinders, no electronics or 2 step, footbrake only. I like to keep it simple and just race, it doesn't matter to me if it's a 7 second dragster or a 20 second street car..I'm in. Brian Seaberg

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

M.J., old bud, I know that Stock isn't "stock" anymore but could you please point me in the direction of any "stock" car that came with or had as an option a 2 step?
I'd appreciate that. ;-)

And that Tru-Start stuff would be OK too! It kinda makes things "fair", doncha think?

Billy, cmon man . I love you like a brother. When I first raced my Camaro in 1994 a 2 step was legal . Twenty nine years later you just can’t decide they are no longer legal. I am all in for Tru- Start …I have no problem with that at all.

[Brett C]

Just when you think it's dead....it's alive!!!!!

[1347]

And now the NMCA just ruled the same way.
https://www.nmcadigital.com/blog/nmc...per-stock/2083

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Billy, cmon man . I love you like a brother. When I first raced my Camaro in 1994 a 2 step was legal . Twenty nine years later you just can’t decide they are no longer legal. I am all in for Tru- Start …I have no problem with that at all.

M.J., I don't care about the use of 2-steps one way or the other. Just using it as a "bargaining chip"! Tru-Start would sure win me a couple of rounds. I'm old ya know. :-)

If there was an illegal blinder installed and property damaged then fine them and give them a vacation ! Who are these clowns! Don’t punish everyone for the stupidity of one or two!
And on Two Steps….

How and why would you take away two steps after many years of running them. That’s BS!
Please Explain a bargaining chip Billy. With all due respect you cannot bargain for me.
It’s like I said before; this site does not set the standard for all Stock / Superstock racers.
I and M A N Y others like the two step. This will affect probably 85-90% of member paying racers.

Am I wrong ???

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Barry Polley

If there was an illegal blinder installed and property damaged then fine them and give them a vacation ! Who are these clowns! Don’t punish everyone for the stupidity of one or two!
And on Two Steps….

How and why would you take away two steps after many years of running them. That BS!
Please Explain a bargaining chip Billy. With all due respect you cannot bargain for me.
It’s like I said before; this site does not set the standard for all Stock / Superstock racers.
I and M A N Y others like the two step. This will affect probably 85-90% of member paying racers.

Am I wrong ???

Barry, If I might speak for Billy ( my brother from another mother)...
I think this is what he was alluding to:
About 20 years ago, when a few guys were deep staging and winning races, a few were trying to take them off their game, rather than minding their own business, and staging normally.
Supposedly NHRA took a vote, (I must have missed it) and the majority (most who didn't DS any way) voted to do away with the practice.
All the slower reacting cars and drivers wanted to do is leave on the third light flash...You know. kinda like the hard leaving, faster cars want to do with a blinder.
I seem to remember that the faster guys were no where to be found when sticking up for the little guys.
Some of them didn't even understand the concept, yet voted against it anyway.
What Billy and a few others (myself included) are saying is : Give us back deep staging and bring in Tru-Start, and we'll go to bat for you, this time.
So, far, I haven't seen one positive comment for our side, from the Give Us Back Our Blinders group.
You know, as long as I've been racing, it seems that the faster guys want to start out every game with two aces, dealt from the bottom of the deck ;-)

[Alan Roehrich]

Oh brother. How did we know this was going to happen?



We're now going to have another "the fast guys have all the advantages" whine fest.


Fine. We don't need the blinders. It is just a stupid rule, that unnecessarily punishes good people who did nothing wrong, for no reason. But that's okay. I like leaving off the bottom bulb, and blocking the other two, but I don't have to. If they want to allow deep staging, that's fine, too.


I really couldn't care less whether you "go to bat" or not. I've never cared about deep staging, one way or another. My issue with blinders is that they were legal, and there's actually no valid reason to make them illegal. But hey, if the slow guys crying helped them make the decision, oh well. And if you're okay not standing up and saying the rule was wrong, because you want to "trade" deep staging and true start for standing up, that's cool, too.



Like I said to a friend the other night, regarding another bogus NHRA decision, and what was said about it, "tell me again why I'm looking at sacrificing my financial security to go back to Stock or Super Stock".

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Oh brother. How did we know this was going to happen?



We're now going to have another "the fast guys have all the advantages" whine fest.


Fine. We don't need the blinders. It is just a stupid rule, that unnecessarily punishes good people who did nothing wrong, for no reason. But that's okay. I like leaving off the bottom bulb, and blocking the other two, but I don't have to. If they want to allow deep staging, that's fine, too.

Great , Alan..You're on the record ;-)

You know, I've said this before. I don't care if they bring in T-S .
Same with D-S . That's why I have a stick shift car..

All I care about is me, me, me..Isn't that the way it's always been? LOL

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Barry, If I might speak for Billy ( my brother from another mother)...
I think this is what he was alluding to:
About 20 years ago, when a few guys were deep staging and winning races, a few were trying to take them off their game, rather than minding their own business, and staging normally.
Supposedly NHRA took a vote, (I must have missed it) and the majority (most who didn't DS any way) voted to do away with the practice.
All the slower reacting cars and drivers wanted to do is leave on the third light flash...You know. kinda like the hard leaving, faster cars want to do with a blinder.
I seem to remember that the faster guys were no where to be found when sticking up for the little guys.
Some of them didn't even understand the concept, yet voted against it anyway.
What Billy and a few others (myself included) are saying is : Give us back deep staging and bring in Tru-Start, and we'll go to bat for you, this time.
So, far, I haven't seen one positive comment for our side, from the Give Us Back Our Blinders group.
You know, as long as I've been racing, it seems that the faster guys want to start out every game with two aces, dealt from the bottom of the deck ;-)

Thanks Mark.