Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

Greetings

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Stock/Auto A/SA Ray Christian defeated Bud Faubel 60 Plymouth Fury Long Ram 413 14.24 @ 98.9

Stock A/S Frank Dade 61 Dodge Long Ram 413 14.51 @ 101.25 - Defeated who?

RatPatrol,
I'm not a Mopar guru but could it be
60 383/330 long ram
61 383/330 tandem-8v (in line)
Not sure the 413 was in there yet but I could be wrong!
And those kinda slow MPH seem right for the 383 not 413?

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

RatPatrol,
I'm not a Mopar guru but could it be
60 383/330 long ram
61 383/330 tandem-8v (in line)
Not sure the 413 was in there yet but I could be wrong!
And those kinda slow MPH seem right for the 383 not 413?

Yep your correct DeuceCoupe - the 413 MW didn't show till Spring 62


This is exactly the sort of help I wanted - I am just using what the various sources are quoting - but even they aren't perfect.


Thanks again!

[georgep3689]

Hello,
I am researching a story from late 1964 about Haydon Proffitt shipping 2 Plymouth s/sers lightweight cars to Australia in nov. 1964. One was a 1963 tan plymouth and the other a blue 1964 savoy 4 speed with the aluminum fornt end. Any thoughts?

Thanks

George

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by georgep3689

Hello,
I am researching a story from late 1964 about Haydon Proffitt shipping 2 Plymouth s/sers lightweight cars to Australia in nov. 1964. One was a 1963 tan plymouth and the other a blue 1964 savoy 4 speed with the aluminum fornt end. Any thoughts?

Thanks

George

Hi George - the car is well known down under..although in one of our more remote cities.

The owner is a member on here...best you pm him...

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=46857

[Rat Patrol]

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[Rat Patrol]

Hi members

1966 has now been published - enjoy the read.

Use the menu at the top of the page to move from year to year.

Click on the highlighted names in the results table for larger pics.

https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpre...-for-the-fans/

[oldskool]

Been lookin back thru some of the threads in the nostalgia section.

I suppose that any undertaking of this size will likely produce a few mistakes.

Me being a Pontiac guy, I always look for references to the Pontiacs.

So, I discovered a couple of obvious mistakes.

(1) It is posted that the '66 GTO had a 400 cube engine. All Pontiac guys know that the 400 was not introduced until the '67 models. '66 was the last year for the 389.

"...PONTIAC – The 66 GTO came with a new 400 cui motor..."

(2) It is posted that the '58 Pontiac named Tokyo Rose won Stock at the '67 World Finals. But, the pic shown is of a '56 Chevy wagon with that name, which was driven by race winner George Cureton. Pics of the '58 Pontiac Tokyo Rose are below. I assume the mistake was made simply because the 2 cars had the same name.

I realize that VERY few people care about this. But, it's been my experience that usually when incorrect info is posted, on most car forums, some are QUICK to post corrections. So, all I'm doing is just posting corrections to a couple of mistakes I noticed.

[Rat Patrol]

1967 published.

https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpress.com/1967-2/

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

1967 published.

https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpress.com/1967-2/

I hope others who were there (my only Sting-Ray in 1967 was a bicycle) will chime in with some edits & comments.


Super! Glad you put in the factoring stuff.
The 427 Medium Riser / Side Oiler is kinda complicated though (4bbl vs 8bbl, cold air vs flat hood, etc) so:

"The Ford 427 side oiler was re-factored to 460HP."

You could just say
"The Ford 427 dual quad side oiler was re-factored to about 460HP"

I added "about" because back then NHRA didnt publish a HP number, they just gave the Lb/HP for each body style, then you use the weight tables from today, hope they're the same, and back-calculate the HP that NHRA was factoring in 1967. So it's "about" 460 but not an exact science in this case.

I'm just starting to read!
Another great year of history.

Further down:
"67 Lightweight 427 Fairlane ran in SS/C, a class slower than the 66 cars."

Near as I can figure from lots of discussions, the glass hood 427-8v Fairlanes (66-67 basically twin cars) ran in SS/B=7.00 class.
That made sense, because all the glass hood cars had a 427-8v under the hood. But the glass hood cars were all 1966 cars. No flat hoods in 1966, and no glass (scoop) hoods in 1967. NHRA finally figured out some rules & let the 66-67 Fairlanes all run the same rules, considering them "twin: cars. And of course for the best Factory Support (MONEY), it was best to run the current-year car ie the 1967 Fairlane in the 1967 race year.

So where did those SS/C=7.70 glass hood Fairlanes come from?

Best I can figure they were 427-4v Fairlanes, WITH the glass hood (a combo that never left the factory, sort of like the glass hood 415hp low-compression Max Wedge). These SS/C=7.70 427-4v Fairlanes would have run SS/D=7.70 in 1968 but the combo disappeared from the NHRA books. I guess they just ran too good.

The 427 Fairlane story is a convoluted one indeed.

Continuing to race results:
Winter:
IIRC the 60 Pontiac G/SA Douglas & Forys was a 389/318-6v wagon, fits class almost exactly. Those tripower Pontiacs weren't all GTOs!

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

1967 published.

https://skunkwerkssuperstock.wordpress.com/1967-2/

Yeah, that's where I copied this statement.

"...PONTIAC – The 66 GTO came with a new 400cui..."

I assume the "66" was supposed to be 67.

There were a few '66 & '67 GTO's that did pretty good.

The Knafel '66 "Trophy Car" apparently won a few. But most of those were probably in 1966. And the "Limelighter" '67 held the D/S class record in '68. But, that would obviously not be included in a '67 year recap. So, these 2 cars missed the target year 1967. But, although the Mopar, Chevy, & Ford cars dominated drag racing back then, there were always a few Pontiacs that did pretty good. But the best drivers went with teams that had factory support. The quickest Pontiacs sometimes had mostly just dealer support, such as Knafel Pontiac, Royal Pontiac, & a few others.