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Old 07-17-2008, 09:58 AM   #11
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I'd bet money that this is just damage control by NHRA. After eliminating the Sport Compact Series and sending it over to NOPI, and now NOPI having financial problems and suspending operations, these guys have no place to race. They were already pissed off when NHRA handed them over to NOPI, and I know a few of them were already talking PST lawsuit. If NHRA can make a few classes to show that they didn't eliminate them completely and actually gave them an alternative place to race, any such lawsuit would probably be seen as frivilous and thrown out.

Regardless, I bet the number of sport compacts you see running in S/S will never be any more than the number of FWD cars you see running in S/S...
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:50 AM   #12
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Smaller classes? Like the class of broken CV joints?
I'll be glad to run one any round... Esp the final.. Chances are they would break before the final. They are about the only thing that breaks more than mine.


Could it be that NHRA recinded the Sportsman oil down penalties in anticipation of adding the rice burners to the program!
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Old 07-17-2008, 12:34 PM   #13
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Old 07-17-2008, 01:18 PM   #14
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Has anyone thought about the safety aspect of pedalling and braking a high HP FWD at the top end to keep from breaking out (ie. torque steer or loading and unloading the large low pressure front slicks during braking and pedalling).

I personally do not know, but it is worth some thought.

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Old 07-19-2008, 07:00 PM   #15
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I highly doubt this will happen as a index class. After looking into stock/super stock class rules for lets say a mid 90's neons and transfer them to a honda civic would require tons of information be to attained by NHRA, engine specs, cam size, pistons, combustion chamber cc, and weight for all of the variations of sport compacts would be immense amount of data to be gathered. Let alone the approved pistons, header, head castings codes would then have to be added to the above listed information.

Along with the basic class rules the electronics would have to be address also, most sport compact run electronic such as in car widebands, dataloggers, 2 steps, programmable ecu's. I looked into what I would need to run my car and there was pages of guidelines for dodge neon chassis so all of those specific rules, part numbers, approved lists would near to be compiled for just my 1991 CRX alone. I am realist and I doubt it will happen.

If the class is just a open bracket I could see it working but from the structure I have seen that isn't going to go over well. I would love to go race in that series but get my car which is very simple to fit current rule would take a full overhaul and would require a set of rules to be released by NHRA in the near future.
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:07 PM   #16
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Steve they created a special class for the All Motor cars of the sport Compact Series. Which means they run with their rules in the Super Stock Class.

As for the electronics, if i am not mistaken all the electronics you have referenced are currently allowed in Stock as well as Super Stock.

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Sounds good, I am just interested to see what and how they would set index. Currently my car would fit as I read it in the DF/S with a index of 15.90. I am very close to allot of rules and nearly 3 seconds under the index, which I guess is a good thing if I was allowed/supposed to be in that class. I guess the sport compacts will be in their own little class and they will figure it out. Should be interesting, hope see you guys out there in 09.
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Old 07-20-2008, 12:20 AM   #18
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This should be interesting! Jim
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Old 07-20-2008, 12:57 AM   #19
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Sounds good, I am just interested to see what and how they would set index. Currently my car would fit as I read it in the DF/S with a index of 15.90. I am very close to allot of rules and nearly 3 seconds under the index, which I guess is a good thing if I was allowed/supposed to be in that class. I guess the sport compacts will be in their own little class and they will figure it out. Should be interesting, hope see you guys out there in 09.
How did you come up with that?
91 Civics aren't in the class guide, therefore you don't have a factored hp rating.
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Old 07-20-2008, 09:03 AM   #20
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Will be interesting how they write the rules - current sport Compact all motor rules allow full tube chassis, non-oem body panels (1pc front ends) and Methanol - it's more of a Comp class than Super Stock but I know the Comp guys would go ballistic if they added a class with cars that ONLY run high 9's.

BTW - since they added the turbo FWD classes into Comp I don't believe a single one has attendedn an event. Don't look for an overtaking.
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Just read somewhere, NHRA is also going to setup some more classes in Comp for the faster Imports.
Hmmm, let's see, 3 seconds under the current SS index should get ya into the 128 car field. How would it feel if say, we have 128 of these cars that no one has a clue of what they should be rated at? Class winners of combinations where guys have beat on a combination for 30-40 years ( NHRA factored, I might add) can go home.
Nothing at all against imports or FWD (come real close to building one at one time) but holy cow, WAKE UP NHRA.
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