IMport going rounds in Super Stock at Pomona

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Tim Kish

Gary - Not sure if you've looked at what I race - 99 Dodge Neon FWD Super Stock. I'm with ya bud carrying the torch for American FWD (and trying like you to win with one)

You're not going to see imports in Stock as the people that race imports are by no means working within the confines of rules like Stock eliminator. The tuner scene in general is far more concerned with increasing power through engine swaps and power adders. The only way you might see one is if its found by someone like Bob Shaw to be underfactored enough to be a good candidate for an easy #1 qualifier. Most of the racers you've named and pretty much all of the FWD racers in Stock/SS historically have been involved with class racing prior to building the FWD car.

My pardons to you as well Tim, and to Larry Dowty as well with his Pontiac Grand Am Super Stocker. I'm a bit jealous of you two, because gone are the Super Stock classes that my fwd V6 could've ran in. However, when I think of having to add a roll bar, and a tranny blanket (et. al.), just to run against an index that was a just a tad bit more than one second quicker than the CF/S index is, it makes me glad I'm a stocker...besides I go to the drags to race Stock, and watch Super Stock. Who knows Tim, someday perhaps you and I will shock the drag racing world by winning Stock & Super Stock with our fwd cars up there at your Brainerd track, if not Bandimere Speedway nearly halfway between our homesteads? I just hope that the bee population is much smaller than what I saw when I was there in '05 for the Div V ET Finals (they were as bountiful as flies in Denver!!!)? By the way Tim, what's with your mosquito's having what seems like suction cups on their legs---when I left the track I had to get my truck over 40mph to get the wind to blow the darn thing off my windshield??? Sheeessh !!!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Might want to cut Scott Kelly some slack...Scott is a second generation racer, son of Larry Kelly who raced a VW in Modified Eliminator back in the day. Of the NOPI freaks, the Kellys were probably the only ones outside the late great John Lingenfelter who actually knew something about drag racing.

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I'll cut Scott some slack (I did give him kudos for doing what non of the rest of them that ran the NOPI scene from the west are doing), but given how I feel about the American auto scene, and since I'll think of Dec. 7, 1941 every time I line up next to an import(especially a Japanese one), I'll be hard pressed to cut any imported cars much (if any) slack. Besides, since Volkswagens were originally made by (what once was) the West Germans, and it was the East Germans who produced Hitler (if my memory isn't deceiving me), so I have no qualms with European vehicles. I may not have lost any (immediate) family in that American tragedy, but I feel as an American, that an innocent part of American history was traumatized forever thanks to companies such as Mitsubishi, and their business allies, plus the country for supporting their warped-minded leaders ideals on that originally docile Sunday morning in Pearl Harbor. As far as I'm concerned USA vehicles were, are, and always be No. 1 with me, and those (whoever they are), who think differently can meet me on the line!!!

After years (decades) of favoritism by the magazine writers towards imported (again Japanese)products, inspite of my own eyes seeing that their cars aren't the angels from heaven that Consumer Reports (and other publications of their ilk) feel they were/are, I take great joy in proving that our home grown products are every bit the equal (if not better), of theirs...that's all!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Hey Gary! Did you forget somebody? Thanks a lot buddy. Jim

Jim, I tried to pm you, but your profile doesn't accept them...bummer.

[Tom P]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Besides, since Volkswagens were originally made by (what once was) the West Germans, and it was the East Germans who produced Hitler (if my memory isn't deceiving me), so I have no qualms with European vehicles. I may not have lost any (immediate) family in that American tragedy, but I feel as an American, that an innocent part of American history was traumatized forever thanks to companies such as Mitsubishi, and their business allies, plus the country for supporting their warped-minded leaders ideals on that originally docile Sunday morning in Pearl Harbor.

I don't think Scott Kelley has a swastika tattoo or bombed Pearl Harbor and his riceburner is running mid 9's not 13's and that's pretty remarkable for a FWD car running in a bracket race against rear drivers.

Your memory is deceiving you... Hitler had a lot to do with creating the Volkswagen and German race cars kicked everybody back then.

As for Pearl Harbor that was as much the US governments doing as the Japanese.

[Jim Wahl]

Gary, I'm just bustin your chops! Email me jimwahl@embarqmail.com

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Tom P

I don't think Scott Kelley has a swastika tattoo or bombed Pearl Harbor and his riceburner is running mid 9's not 13's and that's pretty remarkable for a FWD car running in a bracket race against rear drivers.

Your memory is deceiving you... Hitler had a lot to do with creating the Volkswagen and German race cars kicked everybody back then.

As for Pearl Harbor that was as much the US governments doing as the Japanese.

Tom what does the P stand for, Pamayota? That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

[Ed Fernandez]

Tom's statement may not seem so dumb.Many people believe Roosevelt had info acquired through intelligence that the Japs were planning the bombing.There were many Americans who were still opposed to us entering the war and Roosevelt supposedly saw this as a way to do it.Was it worth 2500 dead?I don't think so.But it's only a theory.
Racing content: The guy went one more round than half of the field.

Ed F.

[63corvette]

Tom P you need to read a little history before spouting such things.
I guess the planes and pilots that attacked Perl Harbor were american made planes and the pilots citizens of the United States to make it the United States fault? Give me a break.
This sounds like some left wing speak that also denies the Holicost in Germany ever happened!!!!!!!!!!
For those who lost family during the second world war this is a personal attack on those family members memory.
Just let your left wing thinking be said around your left wing friends.
I will NEVER OWN A JAPANESE MADE VEHICLE......
My 2 Cents

[Sean Kennedy]

I think we should just thank this guy for coming out and playing with us. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Steve Mtt]

Its great to see Scott out there running, he is a excellent ambassador from the sport compact ranks. He is like many with similar style cars, very professional, and great racer. I know that some of you guys enjoy bashing on the sport compacts as "kids" "punks" and falling into the stereotypes of NOPI, bikini contest ect. For myself and 90 percent of the racers who competed in NOPI race classes that kind of stuff was annoying beyond belief since it portrayed the racers in a way that was completely wrong.

Originally Posted by Tim Kish

You're not going to see imports in Stock as the people that race imports are by no means working within the confines of rules like Stock eliminator. The tuner scene in general is far more concerned with increasing power through engine swaps and power adders. The only way you might see one is if its found by someone like Bob Shaw to be underfactored enough to be a good candidate for an easy #1 qualifier. Most of the racers you've named and pretty much all of the FWD racers in Stock/SS historically have been involved with class racing prior to building the FWD car.

I must disagree with you, there are plenty of import racers like my self that run "Street Stock" which is very close in nature to SS, no swaps, oem trans/motors, but more lenient on the some of the rules. Right now there is no place for us street cars to cross over, after about a half a dozen emails and no one from NHRA could give me a straight answer what class my car would fit into, and what rules I would have to meet.