Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? - Page 2

Chuck Norton · 02-13-2009, 10:53 AM

Nope, it's a unique block that shares a number of the features of an LT1 block. Specifically, it has provision for reverse-flow cooling, a gear driven water pump, the infamous Optispark ignition, roller lifters, and more. The good thing is that it has exactly the same bore and stroke as a '55 or '56 Chevy. We know what it take to make that combination run.

55 Chevy · 02-13-2009, 11:06 AM

There was a 262 small block chev. Produced from 1974-76. 3.671" bore x 3.1" stroke.
I need to do some research on GT classes. The last time I ran my car they were SS/GT. A lot has changed since then.

Allan

SStockDart · 02-13-2009, 11:28 AM

I was pitted next to Ron. The run did not count, it is an automatic transmission, and it did not get hit.

55 Chevy · 02-13-2009, 11:42 AM

So if a car goes -1.40 or faster does tech have to tear down that vehicle to confirm he/she is legal before horsepower is added to that combo? Otherwise how does one confirm the run was legit in the first place?

Allan

Chuck Norton · 02-13-2009, 12:04 PM

Allen,

Bingo!! That's something of a sore spot around the AHFS. That issue is unresolved.

c

hadtobethere · 02-13-2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart

I was pitted next to Ron. The run did not count, it is an automatic transmission, and it did not get hit.

in the Classification guide...Chevrolet 1995

GT Factor Auto w/OEM Heads 265/200 - 207 dated 2/11/09

Bryan Worner · 02-13-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5919 SSKA

The Hp per the way I read the rule is AUTOMATIC once the run is made...weather he withdraws or not!

It's really about time that combo got hit, as he's always been REAL FAST with that particular engine.

As for transmission---I believe the "Any" engine/transmission combo takes care of that.

I doubt 7Hp (if that's what it is) will slow it down THAT MUCH. Should be something like 70/75 lbs...so, a big -1.34 or so under now....LOL

Good run....should of shut off at 1000' but, good run!

7 hp in GT/MA (14lbs weight break) would be 98 lbs. Should slow it down a tenth....if he was at minimum weight????

Tom Meyer · 02-13-2009, 08:37 PM

Ron,s motor combo came from a New York taxi cab and was the brainchild of him and Gene Bichlmeier. It has a 3 in stroke and is basic lt1 setup but is an iron head motor. The reverse cooling is a problem with them as any lt1 because of the extra water holes in the deck and cly head so runing a aftermarket block is not a bolt together deal. It also also has a 5.8 or 9 something long rod that was just reaproved by NHRA not to long ago. In running GT/MA you best have your act togrther with the likes of bob dennis and kevin murpfy with there caddy motors then don,t foget about town and shaffer with 2bl 350s this group was always on the top of the sheet. His run was made in bracket trim and was the first run on the engine since last april when he broke it. All for not when the weather deal took over. I know Ron feels bad over the deal and will move on. But is not our class perfromace based or that the way it started out to be. Its not for us to shoot arrows at him but to shake his hand and say way to go you done good. Way to go Ron and call if you guys need bail money on your trip {wish I was there}. Tom

Curt Rees · 02-13-2009, 09:23 PM

Well spoken, Thomas! Congratulations, Ron, on a GREAT run!

#5457

Curt Rees

SStockDart · 02-13-2009, 09:51 PM

And, I stand corrected. Obviously he did get hit with horsepower. Verified that with Gene Bichelmier today at National Open in Phoenix.

02-13-2009, 10:53 AM	#11
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 106 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? Nope, it's a unique block that shares a number of the features of an LT1 block. Specifically, it has provision for reverse-flow cooling, a gear driven water pump, the infamous Optispark ignition, roller lifters, and more. The good thing is that it has exactly the same bore and stroke as a '55 or '56 Chevy. We know what it take to make that combination run.

02-13-2009, 11:06 AM	#12
55 Chevy Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary,Alberta area Posts: 229 Likes: 23 Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? There was a 262 small block chev. Produced from 1974-76. 3.671" bore x 3.1" stroke. I need to do some research on GT classes. The last time I ran my car they were SS/GT. A lot has changed since then. Allan

02-13-2009, 11:28 AM	#13
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 879 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? I was pitted next to Ron. The run did not count, it is an automatic transmission, and it did not get hit.

02-13-2009, 11:42 AM	#14
55 Chevy Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary,Alberta area Posts: 229 Likes: 23 Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? So if a car goes -1.40 or faster does tech have to tear down that vehicle to confirm he/she is legal before horsepower is added to that combo? Otherwise how does one confirm the run was legit in the first place? Allan

02-13-2009, 12:04 PM	#15
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 106 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? Allen, Bingo!! That's something of a sore spot around the AHFS. That issue is unresolved. c

02-13-2009, 08:37 PM	#18
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 936 Likes: 78 Liked 354 Times in 120 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? Ron,s motor combo came from a New York taxi cab and was the brainchild of him and Gene Bichlmeier. It has a 3 in stroke and is basic lt1 setup but is an iron head motor. The reverse cooling is a problem with them as any lt1 because of the extra water holes in the deck and cly head so runing a aftermarket block is not a bolt together deal. It also also has a 5.8 or 9 something long rod that was just reaproved by NHRA not to long ago. In running GT/MA you best have your act togrther with the likes of bob dennis and kevin murpfy with there caddy motors then don,t foget about town and shaffer with 2bl 350s this group was always on the top of the sheet. His run was made in bracket trim and was the first run on the engine since last april when he broke it. All for not when the weather deal took over. I know Ron feels bad over the deal and will move on. But is not our class perfromace based or that the way it started out to be. Its not for us to shoot arrows at him but to shake his hand and say way to go you done good. Way to go Ron and call if you guys need bail money on your trip {wish I was there}. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 02-14-2009 at 01:51 PM.

02-13-2009, 09:23 PM	#19
Curt Rees Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ft. Pierre, SD Posts: 357 Likes: 415 Liked 249 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? Well spoken, Thomas! Congratulations, Ron, on a GREAT run! #5457 Curt Rees __________________ Curt Rees 5457 SS

02-13-2009, 09:51 PM	#20
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 879 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: Pomona GT/MA (-1.41 under) does it get HP ??? And, I stand corrected. Obviously he did get hit with horsepower. Verified that with Gene Bichelmier today at National Open in Phoenix.