Headsup Stk Elim Round Breakout?

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan

It was an easy fix - I wish someone had mentioned it years ago (it's been that way for a long time).

You are right,it has been that way for a long time.I guess nobody ever pointed it out because it was assumed to be a typo.If the winner of a heads up race was the person that broke out the least,I would have won several of those over the years.
Great job,once again, on covering the eliminations in the early rounds on Drag Race Central.I sure wish that National Dragster could put the results of the first and second rounds in the Sportsman results issue.After all,after 2 rounds,75% of everyone will have lost.

[Bernie Cunningham]

Lolyd Mackay was driving my other car at Phoenix (incidently for sale, that's the car, not Lolyd!) and he had a round with the eventual race winner Brad Burton (congrats again "punk!" 2 stinking thou!), they both dialed 10.88 and the Nat. Drag. called it a heads up race!
Larry, is this part of the same problem?

[Larry Sullivan]

Nope - the heads-up rules only apply when the cars are the same class - I just forgot to have the software check the classes when flagging the breakouts.

The ND article may have referred to the start as "heads-up," but the breakout rules would still apply in that situation and even my flawed software would have produced the correct answer in that case.

The changes I just made will still flag the result as a breakout if the loser runs under his dial-in, even if both drivers have the same dial-in, as long as they are in different classes.

[bill dedman]

JUST FOR THE RECORD (I want to make sure ~I~ have this straight!)

A/SA car dials 10.50
B/SA car also dials 10.50

Identical reaction time, not that it matters (it doesn't)

A/SA car runs 10.4999 breaking out while
B/SA car runs 10.5001 winning the race, because he didn't break out

Is that correct, and if it IS, shouldn't it be pointed out that, although the two cars are leaving the starting line at the exact same time, it's NOT REALLY a "heads-up race" because it's a possible breakout situation??? (Traditionally, in a "heads-up" race, the first car to the finish line ALWAYS wins, barring other infractions.)

[TOM KASCH]

Bill,
you got it right !

[Larry Sullivan]

Bill - you are correct - it's a "heads-up start" (both get the green at the same time) but not a "heads-up race" (breakout rules still apply). Otherwise, the quicker car would just match the slower car's dial and win every time.

[John Lang]

Maybe I should have given it more thought, before i posted the original question,because i was confused!Anyways, thanks for the corretions, now i know!........Later......John !

[bill dedman]

Thanks for the good info, guys.

Is it just me (old age), or is this stuff more complicated than it was back when we used flagmen to start races???? LOL!!!

Bill

[Larry Sullivan]

I could have taken my time - all the heads-up races in the Gainesville ND Stock results were decided on red lights and there weren't any in SS. Oh, well, it's fixed.

[Kile]

Originally Posted by Larry Sullivan

Nope - the heads-up rules only apply when the cars are the same class - I just forgot to have the software check the classes when flagging the breakouts.

Larry,
Also thanks for correcting the COMP results and those double break out wins!