IHRA vs NHRA

[Michael Beard]

Same cars, just normally not as many of them.

Car count is a self-fulfilling prophecy... if everybody showed up, there would be a lot of cars.

Tech seems about the same to me, biggest difference is I have to have a fire extinguisher in the car for IHRA, NHRA asks me to take it out when I run with them.

NHRA makes you REMOVE a piece of SAFETY equipment?!?

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by greg fulk

Me I think the rules should be change some mainly the carb & intake rule but most all "crate motor" cars are fine high quality cars.

scenarios like this could probably make some people stay away..i know i dont care for crate and GT stockers..but if you are more interested in the "bracket race" i guess it's OK..but then there probably are bracket-races closer to home for many too...depends where you decide to draw the line what yourself think is Stock (and SS) i guess and what you would like to run...
1 9224 A/CM Terry Taylor, Lumberton NC, '75 Corvette 6.052 7.15 -1.098
2 988 M/CM Brandon Peterson, Randleman NC, '95 Mustang 7.223 8.30 -1.077
3 9215 C/CM Lee Truell, Lexington NC, '85 Camaro 6.299 7.35 -1.051
4 9777 C/CM Marvin Strickland Jr., Rowland NC, '87 Cam 6.320 7.35 -1.030
5 9910 C/CM Roy Caraway, Ravenel SC, '86 Camaro 6.322 7.35 -1.028
6 918 H/CM Chad Dotson, Mill Spring NC, '74 Duster 6.781 7.80 -1.019
7 9229 G/CM Corey Taylor, Lumberton NC, '87 Camaro 6.700 7.70 -1.000
8 900 B/FIA Mark Beaver, Shelby NC, '98 Camaro 6.513 7.50 -0.987
9 9310 E/CM Tim Rollins, Sanford NC, '87 Camaro 6.517 7.50 -0.983
10 933 D/CM Travis Womble Jr., Sanford NC, '87 Camaro 6.483 7.45 -0.967
11 910 F/CM Billy Plage, Sophia NC, '88 Camaro 6.657 7.60 -0.943
12 9421 H/CM Ernie Humes, Troutman NC, '71 Demon 6.861 7.80 -0.939
13 919 J/CM Tony Ward, Graham NC, '72 Barracuda 7.071 8.00 -0.929
14 1128 B/FIA Wallace Dent Jr., Charlotte Hall MD, '98 C 6.611 7.50 -0.889
15 2032 B/SA Jack Zimmerman, Clemmons NC, '71 Challenger 6.514 7.40 -0.886
16 293 F/PS Bobby Butler, Sevierville TN, '93 Mustang 8.027 8.90 -0.873
17 9208 L/CM Raymond Roland, Cayce SC, '71 Maverick 7.371 8.20 -0.829
18 9916 B/SA Jim Morgan, Conway SC, '64 Fury 6.596 7.40 -0.804
19 958 D/CM Kevin Riner, Autryville NC, '97 Camaro 6.647 7.45 -0.803
20 9988 F/FIA A.J. Currie, Godwin NC, '85 Camaro 7.401 8.20 -0.799
21 308X O/SA Greg Fulk, Jackson OH, '88 Cutlass 7.826 8.55 -0.724
22 9043 A/FIA Daren Poole-Adams, Shelby NC, '98 Formula 6.616 7.25 -0.634
23 9561 AA/SA Gene Jordan, Reidsville NC, '69 Camaro 6.582 7.20 -0.618
24 9228 K/CM Mike McCandless, Burlington NC, Dodge Wagon 7.566 8.10 -0.534
25 954 E/SA Richard Alford Jr, Raleigh NC, '68 Camaro 7.170 7.70 -0.530
26 1983 G/CM Gary Powers, Ridgeway VA, '83 Camaro 7.216 7.70 -0.484
27 3613 HT/SA Randall Campbell, Gray KY, '86 C-10 8.586 9.00 -0.414
28 2000 V/SA Mike Galuk, Huntington WV, '70 Nova 9.550 9.85 -0.300
29 911 DF/SA Tim Griffin, Cedar Bluff VA, Cavalier 9.404 9.70 -0.296
30 2706 V/S Tom Gould, Beaufort SC, '66 Corvair 10.253 9.70 0.553
31 915 F/CM Hillarey Sloan, Broadway NC, '71 Duster 28.000 7.60 20.400

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by bsa633

scenarios like this could probably make some people stay away..i know i dont care for crate and GT stockers..but if you are more interested in the "bracket race" i guess it's OK..but then there probably are bracket-races closer to home for many too...depends where you decide to draw the line what yourself think is Stock (and SS) i guess and what you would like to run...
1 9224 A/CM Terry Taylor, Lumberton NC, '75 Corvette 6.052 7.15 -1.098
2 988 M/CM Brandon Peterson, Randleman NC, '95 Mustang 7.223 8.30 -1.077
3 9215 C/CM Lee Truell, Lexington NC, '85 Camaro 6.299 7.35 -1.051
4 9777 C/CM Marvin Strickland Jr., Rowland NC, '87 Cam 6.320 7.35 -1.030
5 9910 C/CM Roy Caraway, Ravenel SC, '86 Camaro 6.322 7.35 -1.028
6 918 H/CM Chad Dotson, Mill Spring NC, '74 Duster 6.781 7.80 -1.019
7 9229 G/CM Corey Taylor, Lumberton NC, '87 Camaro 6.700 7.70 -1.000
8 900 B/FIA Mark Beaver, Shelby NC, '98 Camaro 6.513 7.50 -0.987
9 9310 E/CM Tim Rollins, Sanford NC, '87 Camaro 6.517 7.50 -0.983
10 933 D/CM Travis Womble Jr., Sanford NC, '87 Camaro 6.483 7.45 -0.967
11 910 F/CM Billy Plage, Sophia NC, '88 Camaro 6.657 7.60 -0.943
12 9421 H/CM Ernie Humes, Troutman NC, '71 Demon 6.861 7.80 -0.939
13 919 J/CM Tony Ward, Graham NC, '72 Barracuda 7.071 8.00 -0.929
14 1128 B/FIA Wallace Dent Jr., Charlotte Hall MD, '98 C 6.611 7.50 -0.889
15 2032 B/SA Jack Zimmerman, Clemmons NC, '71 Challenger 6.514 7.40 -0.886
16 293 F/PS Bobby Butler, Sevierville TN, '93 Mustang 8.027 8.90 -0.873
17 9208 L/CM Raymond Roland, Cayce SC, '71 Maverick 7.371 8.20 -0.829
18 9916 B/SA Jim Morgan, Conway SC, '64 Fury 6.596 7.40 -0.804
19 958 D/CM Kevin Riner, Autryville NC, '97 Camaro 6.647 7.45 -0.803
20 9988 F/FIA A.J. Currie, Godwin NC, '85 Camaro 7.401 8.20 -0.799
21 308X O/SA Greg Fulk, Jackson OH, '88 Cutlass 7.826 8.55 -0.724
22 9043 A/FIA Daren Poole-Adams, Shelby NC, '98 Formula 6.616 7.25 -0.634
23 9561 AA/SA Gene Jordan, Reidsville NC, '69 Camaro 6.582 7.20 -0.618
24 9228 K/CM Mike McCandless, Burlington NC, Dodge Wagon 7.566 8.10 -0.534
25 954 E/SA Richard Alford Jr, Raleigh NC, '68 Camaro 7.170 7.70 -0.530
26 1983 G/CM Gary Powers, Ridgeway VA, '83 Camaro 7.216 7.70 -0.484
27 3613 HT/SA Randall Campbell, Gray KY, '86 C-10 8.586 9.00 -0.414
28 2000 V/SA Mike Galuk, Huntington WV, '70 Nova 9.550 9.85 -0.300
29 911 DF/SA Tim Griffin, Cedar Bluff VA, Cavalier 9.404 9.70 -0.296
30 2706 V/S Tom Gould, Beaufort SC, '66 Corvair 10.253 9.70 0.553
31 915 F/CM Hillarey Sloan, Broadway NC, '71 Duster 28.000 7.60 20.400

Don't be so preoccupied with the "letters" on the window.If the rules were equalized for everyone,they might fit in properly.All of the classes are determined by horsepower to weight.For example,

C/CM = AA/SA
E/CM = A/SA
F/CM = B/SA
G/CM = C/SA
H/CM = D/SA
I/CM = E/SA

You get the idea....

I am NOT saying that I would like all of these classes to be combined,but I do see a scenario where it could be possible to do.I know that some horsepower factors may need to be adjusted,but I am alot closer with my E/SA Olds to the I/CM cars,than I am to a lot of the E/SA cars that run in my division.Specifically a 315 horsepower rated 1971 Chevy 350.

I think the crate motor indexes may be a little soft,and I don't understand why they can run 10.5 inch tires,but CRATE MOTOR cars are NOT just "bracket" cars.

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by bsa633

scenarios like this could probably make some people stay away..i know i dont care for crate and GT stockers..but if you are more interested in the "bracket race" i guess it's OK..but then there probably are bracket-races closer to home for many too...depends where you decide to draw the line what yourself think is Stock (and SS) i guess and what you would like to run...
1 6 918 H/CM Chad Dotson, Mill Spring NC, '74 Duster 6.781 7.80 -1.019
7 9229 G/CM Corey Taylor, Lumberton NC, '87 Camaro 6.700 7.70 -1.000
12 9421 H/CM Ernie Humes, Troutman NC, '71 Demon 6.861 7.80 -0.939
26 1983 G/CM Gary Powers, Ridgeway VA, '83 Camaro 7.216 7.70 -0.484

Best post of the day. Now I have a handle on what my future competition runs. Both these classes are within the weight breaks for my car. Gonna be tough but I'm looking forward to it.

Robert Swartz

[THE LEGEND]

It has nothing to do with the classes payouts etc. etc. etc. It is that Holier than though attitude a lot of NHRA racers have. They will never admit in Public that IHRA is a good deal. What difference should it make. Oh yet I almost forgot a lot of classracers keep forgetting Not much difference between Shoepolish/Class racing and Shoe polish/ Bracket racing.

Side notes
IHRA dropped the CM indexes a couple tenths a while back.
IHRA has a deal at nationals if #1 qualifier gets beat first rd he gets a free entry next year.
IHRA has started giving a TT on Saturdays at National events which means you don't have to miss work to go to one.
I could keep adding the benefits but you will never know if you don't go.

Chip

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

It has nothing to do with the classes payouts etc. etc. etc. It is that Holier than though attitude a lot of NHRA racers have. They will never admit in Public that IHRA is a good deal. What difference should it make. Oh yet I almost forgot a lot of classracers keep forgetting Not much difference between Shoepolish/Class racing and Shoe polish/ Bracket racing.

Side notes
IHRA dropped the CM indexes a couple tenths a while back.
IHRA has a deal at nationals if #1 qualifier gets beat first rd he gets a free entry next year.
IHRA has started giving a TT on Saturdays at National events which means you don't have to miss work to go to one.
I could keep adding the benefits but you will never know if you don't go.

Chip

Chip, You and Brandon are dead on.
IHRA has been a fun place to race for year's and has alway's treated racer's fair.....
If NHRA Guy's want to race IHRA they are welcomed,
Qualifying Order is what the real problem is, How dare you build a crate motor or GT car and qualify higher than my $40,000 car. A TRUE RACER will Race and not cry about it.1/8 mile,1/4 mile, a true racer will bring his shoe polish and his best game..
The rest is all Bull !!!

[Myron Piatek]

bsa633, and everyone who follows his line of thinking,

Check the NHRA #'s run under the index and PLEASE tell me where the problem is!

...and to elaborate on CM cars a bit:

* It may be a stretch, but the engines have specs from the factory that need to be followed with the same rules as regular Stockers.

* Terry Bell, Mike Baker and IHRA came up with the concept to make it more affordable to race. The numbers speak for themselves and it saved IHRA Stock. People can afford a CM car more than a regular Stocker and can compete on a smaller budget.

* Regular Stockers have so many "superceded" parts, OEM and aftermarket, that they are a far cry from OEM also.

* Mix the IHRA and NHRA qualifiers, even if weather is adjusted, and you have a very mixed bunch.

* While some may want to combine classes for the sake of having less classes and more heads-up runs, the fact is that they are currently seperate and they do not run heads-up. So any percieved "advantage" is neutralized by shoe polish.

* Most CM cars don't run 10.5" tires including me. Don't need it! It wouldn't surprise me if that rule may be changed at some point. They made sweeping and very costly rule changes years ago because the regular Stocker guys were complaining. That was enough.



ENNIS, Texas - Final order after 3 rounds of qualifying in Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, South Central Division, event at Texas Motorplex:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 4772 E/SA David Buckner, New Waverly TX, '72 Duster 10.750 12.00 -1.250
2 4004 F/SA R.J. Sledge, Boerne TX, '67 Fairlane 10.933 12.15 -1.217
3 4767 K/SA Dean Oliver, Stuttgart AR, '79 Malibu 11.764 12.95 -1.186
4 4448 D/S John Duzac, Covington LA, '67 Camaro 10.615 11.80 -1.185
5 4168 F/SA Jerry Davis, Santa Fe TX, '72 Duster 10.983 12.15 -1.167
6 400D B/SA Slate Cummings, Hammond LA, '99 Firebird 10.409 11.55 -1.141
7 4341 E/SA Bill McClister, Shoreacres TX, '72 Mustang 10.888 12.00 -1.112
8 593 AA/SA Jimmy Holzman, Wichita KS, '08 Cobra Jet 9.794 10.90 -1.106
9 4014 B/SA Martin Burke, Leonard TX, '69 Mustang 10.455 11.55 -1.095
10 4520 A/SA David Latino, Donaldsonville LA, '02 Fireb 10.213 11.30 -1.087
11 4771 B/SA Sammy Pizzolato, Houma LA, '69 Corvette 10.472 11.55 -1.078
12 4708 F/SA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '67 Barracuda 11.088 12.15 -1.062
13 4133 H/SA Butch Marlow, Canton TX, '77 Road Runner 11.390 12.45 -1.060
14 4293 G/SA James Paul, Ft. Worth TX, '73 Duster 11.248 12.30 -1.052
15 5300 A/SA Al Corda, Elk Mound WI, '02 Firebird 10.250 11.30 -1.050
16 464Q G/SA Austin Williams, Burleson TX, '69 Camaro 11.258 12.30 -1.042
17 4024 A/SA Bobby Roper, Bigelow AR, '69 Camaro 10.275 11.30 -1.025
18 4900 D/SA Leon Philpot, Grand Prairie TX, '71 Corvet 10.831 11.85 -1.019
19 4116 K/SA Kevin Scott, Rowlett TX, '90 Trans Am 11.932 12.95 -1.018
20 4517 N/SA Patrick Courts, New Iberia LA, '87 Firebird12.317 13.30 -0.983
21 595 AA/SA Chad Holzman, Wichita KS, '08 Cobra Jet 9.917 10.90 -0.983
22 4403 C/SA Gary Emmons, Friendswood TX, '98 Firebird 10.720 11.70 -0.980
23 4144 M/SA Jerry Hefler, Kennedale TX, '65 Impala 12.177 13.15 -0.973
24 45 G/SA Verne Buchanan, Conway AR, '73 Mustang 11.330 12.30 -0.970
25 46 B/SA Jimmy Hidalgo Jr., Donaldsonville LA, '98 10.587 11.55 -0.963
26 428 A/S Kevin Helms, Schriever LA, '69 Camaro 10.295 11.25 -0.955
27 4121 C/SA Kyle Ratcliff, Denton TX, '98 Firebird 10.750 11.70 -0.950
28 5159 U/SA Bob Shaw, Sedalia MO, '77 Seville 14.207 15.15 -0.943
29 4728 O/SA Daniel Doughty, Denham Springs LA, '68 Che 12.550 13.45 -0.900
30 4611 G/S Larry Hudson, Ruston LA, '85 Camaro 11.301 12.20 -0.899
31 4214 H/SA Sam Lusco Jr, Houma LA, '96 Dakota 11.552 12.45 -0.898
32 4757 G/S Dennis Oliver, Stuttgart AR, '67 Camaro 11.308 12.20 -0.892
33 4723 H/SA Kenny Doughty, Baton Rouge LA, '68 Chevelle11.587 12.45 -0.863
34 4726 F/SA Jim Hanig, Houston TX, '68 Chevelle 11.340 12.15 -0.810
35 4705 A/SA Bobby Brannon, Bossier City LA, '69 Camaro 10.492 11.30 -0.808
36 4074 A/SA Jimmie Hutto, Pearland TX, '69 Camaro 10.505 11.30 -0.795
37 456Q B/S Jason Patterson, Highlands TX, '70 Camaro 10.729 11.50 -0.771
38 4401 A/SA Terry Emmons, League City TX, '69 Camaro 10.539 11.30 -0.761
39 2540 Q/SA Scott Helms, Crystal Spgs FL, '66 Impala 13.340 14.10 -0.760
40 4747 F/S Stan Holt, Houston TX, '67 Nova 11.357 12.10 -0.743
41 4006 G/SA Dale Hulquist, Crosby TX, '67 Camaro 11.578 12.30 -0.722
42 598X G/SA Tyler Wudarczyk, Salina KS, '73 Camaro 11.600 12.30 -0.700
43 41 D/SA Jarrod Granier, Labadieville LA, '98 Camaro11.161 11.85 -0.689
44 4153 I/SA William Carrell, Ardmore OK, '69 Chevelle 11.913 12.60 -0.687
45 4002 M/SA Greg Turk, Pasadena TX, '80 Malibu 12.466 13.15 -0.684
46 449 A/SA Michael Colaluca, Lancaster TX, '63 Belved 10.629 11.30 -0.671
47 4997 F/SA Jeff Richardson, Dallas TX, '67 Fairlane 11.510 12.15 -0.640
48 4691 H/SA Darrell Erwin, Kennedale TX, '69 Camaro 11.837 12.45 -0.613
49 4396 F/SA Steve Faulkner, Denton TX, '68 Camaro 11.587 12.15 -0.563
50 407B F/S Don Davidson, Gilmer TX, '69 Camaro 11.559 12.10 -0.541
51 4163 E/SA Kirk Morgan, Spring Brch TX, '67 Fairlane 11.510 12.00 -0.490
52 473M I/SA Bob Miller, Pinehurst TX, '77 Camaro 12.114 12.60 -0.486
53 4860 D/SA Jimmy Hidalgo, Donaldsonville LA, '97 Cama 11.375 11.85 -0.475
54 400C F/SA Jody Simoneaux, Napoleonville LA, '67 Nova 11.676 12.15 -0.474
55 4786 B/SA Marvin Allemand, Raceland LA, '95 Camaro 11.080 11.55 -0.470
56 4001 D/SA Mike Trumble, Pasadena TX, '71 Corvette 11.415 11.85 -0.435
57 4238 O/SA Blane Arrington, Mabank TX, '66 Chevelle W 13.045 13.45 -0.405
58 4402 AA/SA Jerry Emmons, Pasadena TX, '69 Camaro 10.497 10.90 -0.403
59 4925 AA/SA Jimmy Mikolajczyk, San Antonio TX, '67 Cor 10.585 10.90 -0.315
60 4368 A/S Casey Allemand, Raceland LA, '95 Firebird 11.200 0.00 11.200


VALDOSTA, Ga. - Final order after 2 rounds of qualifying in Stock Eliminator at the NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series, Southeast Division, event at South Georgia Motorsports Park:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 1924 C/SA Bud Rowe, Bridgeton NC, '94 Camaro 10.391 11.70 -1.309
2 2308 K/SA Randy Harrison, Orlando FL, '89 Camaro 11.703 12.95 -1.247
3 2042 V/SA Norman Griffis Jr., Johnston SC, '84 Fireb 14.577 15.80 -1.223
4 2237 E/SA Butch Payne, Rome GA, '98 Firebird 10.833 12.00 -1.167
5 2239 H/SA Jim Wahl, Deltona FL, '78 Road Runner 11.293 12.45 -1.157
6 2390 D/SA David Toren, Sugar Hill GA, '67 Mustang 10.704 11.85 -1.146
7 2089 J/SA John Livingston, Murfreesboro TN, '90 Cama 11.610 12.75 -1.140
8 28 G/SA Tom Stevenson, Flowery Branch GA, '69 Nova 11.167 12.30 -1.133
9 2923 K/SA Greg Rowe, Bridgeton NC, '89 Camaro 11.843 12.95 -1.107
10 2446 A/SA Robbie Shaw, Douglasville GA, '01 Firebird 10.193 11.30 -1.107
11 2725 B/SA Brandon Wood, Thomasville GA, '69 Nova 10.474 11.55 -1.076
12 2664 I/S Paul Berg, Ft. Lauderdale FL, '85 Camaro 11.425 12.50 -1.075
13 2586 V/SA McNeal Freeman, Lithonia GA, '85 Caprice 14.751 15.80 -1.049
14 264 F/SA Mary Meints, Panama City Bch FL, '86 Camaro11.117 12.15 -1.033
15 2207 AA/SA Craig Couris, Atlanta GA, '69 Corvette 9.892 10.90 -1.008
16 6 A/SA Brenda Grubbs, Plant City FL, '69 Camaro 10.303 11.30 -0.997
17 227P I/SA Anthony Puleo, Palm Bch Gdns FL, '85 Camaro11.636 12.60 -0.964
18 2124 D/SA Jeff Strickland, Red Bay AL, '95 Camaro 10.892 11.85 -0.958
19 2530 M/SA Peter Noriega, Hileah FL, '80 Malibu 12.214 13.15 -0.936
20 4106 K/SA Owen Birkett, Stone Mtn GA, '79 Regal 12.018 12.95 -0.932
21 2707 B/SA Mickey Whaley, Kinston NC, '69 Camaro 10.618 11.55 -0.932
22 2057 H/SA Chris Puzycki, W. Melbourne FL, '85 Camaro 11.543 12.45 -0.907
23 286 C/SA Jeff Adkinson, Damascus GA, '69 Camaro 10.837 11.70 -0.863
24 2158 H/SA Hugh Meeks, Fitzpatrick AL, '85 Camaro 11.588 12.45 -0.862
25 214 M/SA Joe Reid, Campobello SC, '88 Cutlass 12.312 13.15 -0.838
26 4017 B/SA Michael Carey, New Orleans LA, '68 Chevelle10.714 11.55 -0.836
27 2219 J/SA Jorge Carnero, Miami FL, '90 Trans Am 11.915 12.75 -0.835
28 2211 B/SA Russell Johnson, Sharpsburg GA, '69 Mustang10.732 11.55 -0.818
29 218 I/SA David Bell, Screven GA, '73 Nova 11.835 12.60 -0.765
30 2733 A/SA Merrill Schrimscher, Lake Mary FL, '69 Cam 10.536 11.30 -0.764
31 2131 N/SA James Hill, Fayetteville GA, '64 Comet 12.590 13.30 -0.710
32 2201 D/SA Jeremy Preston, W. Palm Beach FL, '03 Corv 11.159 11.85 -0.691
33 264A M/SA Harry Frank, Lincoln CA, '83 Malibu Wgn 12.471 13.15 -0.679
34 2335 J/SA Dan Dobson, Gainesville FL, '86 Monte Carlo12.130 12.75 -0.620
35 2154 E/SA Jimmy Parker, Columbus GA, '67 Camaro 11.464 12.00 -0.536
36 2504 H/SA Shelby Cohen, Trilby FL, '73 Nova 11.931 12.45 -0.519
37 5680 I/SA Marlene Nelson, Hugo MN, '68 Chevelle 12.189 12.60 -0.411
38 2735 H/SA Wayne Adams, Boston GA, '69 Nova 12.041 12.45 -0.409
39 4046 N/SA Warren Birkett, Baker LA, '83 Malibu Wgn 12.976 13.30 -0.324
40 2434 E/SA Brien Radley, Belleview FL, '69 Camaro 11.763 12.00 -0.237
41 2882 Q/SA Sean Ward, Grand Island FL, '82 Imperial 13.878 14.10 -0.222
42 2333 C/SA Grace Howell, Aiken SC, '94 Camaro 17.151 11.70 5.451

[X-TECH MAN]

You might as well save your breath (or typing fingers) Myron. Its Just an excuse for some to not even try racing IHRA.

[JS Robinson]

I gave up on NHRA . They do not care about anyone. I find the people in IHRA so much nicer. They actually care that you are there. I also find the racers so much nicer. I can race twice as much and use half as many vacation days.

I renewed my membership in IHRA earlier this yr and after having a couple questions I had answered. From the time I sent my money in till I got my membership back was 3 days.

Now with NHRA the last time it took 4 months a 5 stamps. Then 10 months into the 1st yr. They canceled my National dragster and everything. Trying to get a answer why from them was impossible. I never did get one.

I have a NHRA div race less then 30 minutes from my house. Do I go to it. NO WAY. Last yr I drove to Pittsburgh. Why? Because the people are nicer.

I don't understand why there is such a uproar about Crate Motor cars? I wish someone could explain it. Isn't everything the same for all stockers? Tech and all?

[Ed Wright]

[QUOTE=Michael Beard;114686]Car count is a self-fulfilling prophecy... if everybody showed up, there would be a lot of cars. [QUOTE]

Yep, that is correct. Why the SS cars don't show (At least for the 1/4 mile races), I have no idea. I realize lot of the stocker guys hate the crate motors. I don't have a dog in that fight, so don't care.

NHRA makes you REMOVE a piece of SAFETY equipment?!?

Yep, they ask me to remove it. the reason I was given was they have had too many of them come loose when a car flips, bounces around inside, and beats the driver up pretty badly. Therefore they took them back out of the rule book years ago. (NHRA used to run them, I was told. Must have been either while I ran a sprint car, or while I was "retired" from racing.) The tech official said if they were mounted so you could get it out in a hurry, they weren't secure enough to stay put if the car flipped. I could have one if it were permantely mounted with tubing and nozzles where needed. I can see how it could happen. I now put it in for IHRA, store it in the trailer for NHRA. No big deal either way.