Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S - Page 2

Aubrey N Bruneau · 05-26-2009, 11:50 AM

Not sure that I know where to start here, guys...

oh yes I do !

The people !!!
It really WAS all the people that came by !
The support I received from so many. As I had mentioned on the 348-409 forum... I learned more in each hour there, from fellow Stock / Super Stock guys ( a privilage to say that, by the way ), than I learned in 4 years of high school !
It was simply overwhelming.

and yes, I broke a crown and pinion on the line, in the first round of eliminations
ISN'T THAT GREAT ? ! ! ! !
HAAAA HAAAA HEEEE !!!!
it broke because after all this time, the engine makes power, and the car works.
doesn't get better than that

I was stunned by the trap speed actually. At first, I spent a half hour, tracking down the timing people, to verify that there was no error.
122.74

Now, a little more first gear in the Jerico ( has 2.83 now ), soften the current clutch setting JUST A TOUCH, and get used to the car. Hopefully 10.80's.

in the mean time, got some catching up to do !

THANK YOU to all the people who helped ( probably didn't even realize how much you did )... Rory, Danny, and of course Bob, for stopping by. I personally didn't get much opportunity to mingle, because people kept coming by !
DAMN it was fun !!!!!

hey... and guess what ?
there will be a real video of the old car... on an actual race track
knew that would make you happy !

Ken Haase · 05-26-2009, 12:32 PM

Way cool Aubrey! By the tenor of your post, it sounds like it was all worth while and that you really enjoyed yourself. Pretty darn good debut, I'd say. Sorry about the parts breakage though. Ain't much sweeter ( or finer) than an '09. My second car was a black '61 Bel Air 348/305 stick bubbletop.

Crown and pinion? Oh, I get it. Put the ring gear on your head, and it looks like a crown.
Canada-speak, eh?

Aubrey N Bruneau · 05-26-2009, 01:16 PM

Well Ken, maybe only half a crown in there now.
Crown ? Ring ?
it all costs like jewlery anyhow

I think that may be "speak" from my flathead Ford books ?
I dunno ?

treessavoy · 05-26-2009, 01:29 PM

Congrat's on taking a revered muscle car from the '60's and making it competitive and fun.

In the day I had a black '64 Biscayne 425 horse car. Raced it at the track (Atco) a few times but raced it "elsewhere" a lot more!!!

My current race car is a '64 Plymouth Savoy 426/415 hp.

Hope you can get her in the 10's soon.

Good luck!

Aubrey N Bruneau · 05-26-2009, 06:12 PM

Thanks again, guys

Here's a photo taken from one of the videos:

RJ · 05-26-2009, 08:41 PM

Cool ride Aubrey, good to see it coming around. Ever think about underdriving high gear in the Jerico? - you could put in a taller (read stronger) ring & pinion and get the same total ratio.

Alan Roehrich · 05-26-2009, 09:03 PM

I have to wonder. If it is legal and acceptable to put a 12 bolt in place of a 10 bolt, even when the 12 bolt was never an option, would it not be legal to put a 12 bolt in an older big car?

bill dedman · 05-26-2009, 09:32 PM

That's a REALLY good question....

Mark Yacavone · 05-26-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I have to wonder. If it is legal and acceptable to put a 12 bolt in place of a 10 bolt, even when the 12 bolt was never an option, would it not be legal to put a 12 bolt in an older big car?

Sure it would be. Chevy passenger car rear in a Chevy passenger car. I'm sure the 66 Impala 12 bolt is already wide enough.

Aubrey N Bruneau · 05-26-2009, 11:20 PM

Yes, I could run a 12 bolt. The 65-up unit is a couple inches wider, so it would have to be shortened some.
I really never thought this thing would make this much power, or hook the way it did. I went through considerable effort and expense, to retain the original rear ( been doing and marketing this package for almost 20 years... never broke one ). Being a coil spring car, with very unique brackets, it concerns me that the geometry for the mounting hardware on the housing, would be virtually impossible to locate as accurately as that on the original housing.

A transmission with a "reduction" top gear, could help me get into a 4.56 rear gear, which is far more available, and a bit stronger. However, to my knowledge, there never has been a "pro gear" ( 9310 ) material for these rear ends.
Which is why I contacted Richmond today !
I'll be &$#ed.... they'll do me some 5.13's in a 9310 material !
one catch
I have to buy 25 sets !
I'd buy 5 sets maybe

05-26-2009, 11:50 AM	#11
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Not sure that I know where to start here, guys... oh yes I do ! The people !!! It really WAS all the people that came by ! The support I received from so many. As I had mentioned on the 348-409 forum... I learned more in each hour there, from fellow Stock / Super Stock guys ( a privilage to say that, by the way ), than I learned in 4 years of high school ! It was simply overwhelming. and yes, I broke a crown and pinion on the line, in the first round of eliminations ISN'T THAT GREAT ? ! ! ! ! HAAAA HAAAA HEEEE !!!! it broke because after all this time, the engine makes power, and the car works. doesn't get better than that I was stunned by the trap speed actually. At first, I spent a half hour, tracking down the timing people, to verify that there was no error. 122.74 Now, a little more first gear in the Jerico ( has 2.83 now ), soften the current clutch setting JUST A TOUCH, and get used to the car. Hopefully 10.80's. in the mean time, got some catching up to do ! THANK YOU to all the people who helped ( probably didn't even realize how much you did )... Rory, Danny, and of course Bob, for stopping by. I personally didn't get much opportunity to mingle, because people kept coming by ! DAMN it was fun !!!!! hey... and guess what ? there will be a real video of the old car... on an actual race track knew that would make you happy ! __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

05-26-2009, 12:32 PM	#12
Ken Haase Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 233 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Way cool Aubrey! By the tenor of your post, it sounds like it was all worth while and that you really enjoyed yourself. Pretty darn good debut, I'd say. Sorry about the parts breakage though. Ain't much sweeter ( or finer) than an '09. My second car was a black '61 Bel Air 348/305 stick bubbletop. Crown and pinion? Oh, I get it. Put the ring gear on your head, and it looks like a crown. Canada-speak, eh?

05-26-2009, 01:16 PM	#13
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Well Ken, maybe only half a crown in there now. Crown ? Ring ? it all costs like jewlery anyhow I think that may be "speak" from my flathead Ford books ? I dunno ? __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

05-26-2009, 01:29 PM	#14
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Congrat's on taking a revered muscle car from the '60's and making it competitive and fun. In the day I had a black '64 Biscayne 425 horse car. Raced it at the track (Atco) a few times but raced it "elsewhere" a lot more!!! My current race car is a '64 Plymouth Savoy 426/415 hp. Hope you can get her in the 10's soon. Good luck!

05-26-2009, 06:12 PM	#15
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Thanks again, guys Here's a photo taken from one of the videos: Attached Thumbnails __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

05-26-2009, 08:41 PM	#16
RJ Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 248 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Cool ride Aubrey, good to see it coming around. Ever think about underdriving high gear in the Jerico? - you could put in a taller (read stronger) ring & pinion and get the same total ratio.

05-26-2009, 09:03 PM	#17
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,118 Likes: 1,573 Liked 1,837 Times in 417 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S I have to wonder. If it is legal and acceptable to put a 12 bolt in place of a 10 bolt, even when the 12 bolt was never an option, would it not be legal to put a 12 bolt in an older big car? __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

05-26-2009, 09:32 PM	#18
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S That's a REALLY good question.... __________________ Bill

05-26-2009, 11:20 PM	#20
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Aubrey's 62 409 goes 11.067 in C/S Yes, I could run a 12 bolt. The 65-up unit is a couple inches wider, so it would have to be shortened some. I really never thought this thing would make this much power, or hook the way it did. I went through considerable effort and expense, to retain the original rear ( been doing and marketing this package for almost 20 years... never broke one ). Being a coil spring car, with very unique brackets, it concerns me that the geometry for the mounting hardware on the housing, would be virtually impossible to locate as accurately as that on the original housing. A transmission with a "reduction" top gear, could help me get into a 4.56 rear gear, which is far more available, and a bit stronger. However, to my knowledge, there never has been a "pro gear" ( 9310 ) material for these rear ends. Which is why I contacted Richmond today ! I'll be &$#ed.... they'll do me some 5.13's in a 9310 material ! one catch I have to buy 25 sets ! I'd buy 5 sets maybe __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409