New Rules

[TOP GUN]

thanks for the info mike.Courtney has downloaded the video .

[Cobra521]

Now we operate the same as a national event. A new rule is just we need to keep snakes from slithering in, in the middle of the night at a Pro-Am to eat the slow and weak. That was HUGE problem. Of course THAT was legal by the rule book,,, then. Will we see a rule on the buy-backs?

[John Kelley]

I can't believe actually having to make a QUALIFYING pass in a qualified field is too much to expect !
They must think there is a benefit of being at the bottom of the qualifying list ?

[LNorton]

There are quite a few that like to go bracket racing on Saturday then show up Sunday morning... Like Mr. Beard and Richard Alford for example.

[GUMP]

And there are some who's work schedule gets them to the far off tracks late Saturday...

[herbjr]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

I can't believe actually having to make a QUALIFYING pass in a qualified field is too much to expect !
They must think there is a benefit of being at the bottom of the qualifying list ?

Ive only done this once a few years ago, my son had a ball game, I missed the 2 qualifing sessions but can the combo Saturday night with no time run. So I got 3 runs in the Saturday night combo race then raced on Sunday. With this option I miss the race.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

I was unaware that the single races didn't give a sun. morning run, sorry been a few years I guess since I was at a single points race. For what it's worth I believe that this is due to some things that were done at some of the double races, froom what I've heard. Of course it could have just been racers "venting" Joe

[Roger K Fain]

So you show up on Sunday, pay your fees, and you're placed last on the qualifying sheet with 23 cars. #1 gets a bye and you have to run #12, who is in the same class as you and you have a heads-up run with a guy who can run 1.3 under and you can only run .700 under. Hmm. what to do...aha, change class to GT/something, which eliminates the "heads-up" problem and reverts you back to bracket mode, viola.
Mike, is this the scenario that prompted the rule change?

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

I can't believe actually having to make a QUALIFYING pass in a qualified field is too much to expect !

No, it's not, but it had been legal at "single" Pro-Am events where there was no scheduled Sunday qualifying run, which generally happens because of the Church "blue laws" where most Carolina races can't start before Noon. The rule has been changed, so we'll run by the new rule.

They must think there is a benefit of being at the bottom of the qualifying list ?

Can't speak for everyone, but for me, as Lee said, I'm just trying to run multiple series at the same time, and it's not possible for me to be everywhere at once. On two occasions, I have run a bracket points race on a Saturday night, and then come into Kinston on Sunday morning with no qualifying run -- don't really care where they put me on the ladder, I just wanted to race. That being said, it's not really that fair, because I could study the ladder and determine which class I needed to be in to avoid heads-up runs.

I missed Coastal Plains last week because of a Saturday bracket points race that I had to attend. Having never been to Coastal Plains, I couldn't justify the expense while "flying blind" (I at least had data on Kinston from past years). If Coastal Plains had a Sunday qualifying run, I would've gone. I think some of the smaller car-count races could have a Sunday time trial.

My personal opinion only,

[udog1]

I don't see why we can't have 1 run on Sunday even on single race weekends. That is the way it used to be when I started racing IHRA. You could run a race on Sat nite and run 1 run Sun after Church service.