Super Classes Future

[H.A.A.C. Racing]

Just FYI Howard Commander said that he had 40 more cars then last year. Might still be less then most tracks, but up is better then down.

[Chris Williams]

The Seattle National event has a full S/C field of 70 cars...

[Dave Steltz]

Originally Posted by H.A.A.C. Racing

Just FYI Howard Commander said that he had 40 more cars then last year. Might still be less then most tracks, but up is better then down.

Was curious so I looked at DRC and added up 2008 vs 2009 at LVD

2008 2009
TD 25 40
TS 25 37
SC 54 56
SG 48 44
SST 60 56
S/Stk 55 60
Stk 105 104

[Dave Steltz]

MG this year

TD 32
TS 35
SC 76
SG 64
SST 64
S/Stk 98
Stk 116

[H.A.A.C. Racing]

LVD +25 what was MG in 08? curious to see if it fell off

[Bryan Gillespie]

Dave take that car count to the next level and multiply by 170.00 and see what you get .

[Rich Biebel]

I can recall a few years when S/C was almost always over 100 cars and as high as 140 cars at E-Town one year as it went 8 rds to win. S/G car counts have been down as was S/S for quite a few years. Stock was about the only category that was up a fair amount the last few years. There were events where Stock had over 128 cars and one that was over 150...MG just a few years ago.....A S/G car became very expensive to build so many people opted for a dragster for it's ability to win at both S/C and bracket racing. I think the Super classes have become stagnant and boring even to those that have raced it a lot....ME included. Speed up the indexes.......maybe it would help.......Makes no sense to run the same indexes for 20+ years and the HP levels are up by almost double in some cars....In the '80's a S/G car went 140.....That is not even a good speed for a S/ST car today.....'Stopping a 1000+hp motor down to run 8.90 9.90 or even10.90 is a rediculous way of racing.......thats just my opinion.....and me and my opinion are running brackets here and there......and running what I got for HP wide open.......When I get more "motor" and HP in my car,maybe next year, I will run T/D at a few races......

[Chris Williams]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Speed up the indexes.......maybe it would help.......Makes no sense to run the same indexes for 20+ years and the HP levels are up by almost double in some cars.

Excellent point. Knock a second off each class?

[luckydog]

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie

Dave take that car count to the next level and multiply by 170.00 and see what you get .

Wheres it all go

[Dave Steltz]

Originally Posted by Dave Steltz

MG this year

TD 32
TS 35
SC 76
SG 64
SST 64
S/Stk 98
Stk 116

2008

TD 25
TS 42
SC 80
SG 84
SST 66
S/Stk 92
Stk 115


485 in 2008, 504 in 2009

I think the car counts for the most part were worse last year, mostly due to gas being 4 bucks a gallon last year, and this year I think its a little bit of carry over, the bad economy, spending more time checking the weather (like alot did for Atco, and I'm sure some of that affected LVD)..

But back to the reason for this thread, note the car counts are up for TD and TS..I understand it, especially for the TD guys...I saw some local bracket racers runng TD at the valley, and some were running in "bracket" trim and a few added the blue bottle...So you can go fast, no throttle stop...Not so easy for TS as you need a fast door car to begin with...

THE FANS LOVED IT !!!!!!

Especially when the real fast cars were out there....Maybe it is time for NHRA to do something with the indexes...Again this weekend I heard statements that throttle stop racing was stupid, all them damn electronics, they're scared to run fast, blah blah blah...although there will still be 150 mph SST cars, 170 mph SG cars and they will use the stop unless there is some major change..and to tell you the truth I'm sure there are guys who dont want a change , and thats their right, and I dont think that the top guys at NHRA want to change it, cause cars will always show up and lets face it, especially at a National we are filler.....