Once again a bogus combination

[LNorton]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

You can change with the times or you can dream about the old days. There is no future in the past.

I'm glad someone finally said it.

[mtkawboy]

The official truck of the NHRA is what ?

[John Quinn]

Originally Posted by LNorton

That's exactly what I was thinking...

The crate motors can't run AA-M... they can run A-M/CRATE MOTOR in IHRA!

That 352 is in the class guide as a motor available in 2010 Mustangs, it can run in stock, superstock and GT classes.

I'm gonna get one.

[Bruce Noland]

Fun with a National Event in 2013 or thereabouts:

Announcer:
"Ok, next up we have Stock Eliminator. Today we have a qualified field of 64 cars in the staging lanes. Now all these cars may appear to be very similar or even identical in some cases but I can assure you they absolutely are not. For the record, about half of them are Challengers and the other half are Mustangs. Great looking cars aren't they. Although they all may look very similar, I can guarantee you they aren't. Look at all the different paint jobs with the great graphics."

"Well now, here is our first pair, of er uh Mustangs, now look at the wheels on these cars and tell me that we aren't looking at highly differentiated race cars. The Mustang in the left lane has Weld wheels with custom graphics and the Mustang in the right lane went for the classic look with no graphics and MT wheels. Wow what a race. And next up we have a Challenger and a Mustang going at it - some great OEM competition here folks. Notice the racing stripes on both cars. The red Chally has opted for white racing stripes while the black Mustang has opted for big old honk'n gold stripes...Whoaaa."

Now, 30 pairs later...... "we'll wrap up this round by watching a pair of Challengers square off. Now tell me this isn't neat ladies and gentlemen - we started this round with a pair of Mustangs and we are finishing up with a pair of Challengers...how about that." "Who would'a thunk it."

Old saying: People who embrace a dictated future will suffer a fool's result.

[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=Bruce Noland;

Old saying: People who embrace a dictated future will suffer a fool's result.[/QUOTE]

I couldnt have come up with a better reply than this for you Ken than this quote......lol.

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

You can change with the times or you can dream about the old days. There is no future in the past.

Thanks so much for the support and all the letter-writing advocating bringing Crate Motor cars to NHRA. They have been the future since 1995, so again, thank you for embracing them! Crate Motor cars make up a big percentage of the field in this region, so it stands to reason that the fields will be enhanced even more in NHRA, strengthening the fundamentals going forward, and taking them to the next level. I understand that NHRA will be bringing them into the fold at the factory ratings, to keep things fair for everyone. (ie., my 360 Magnum will revert to the factory rating of 300HP, rather than 325HP)

Sorry, thought my calendar said April 1, not 15. Seriously? I got "enhanced", "fundamentals", "going forward", and "the next level" all in one sentence. That's a winner right there! (It's unfortunate that I have to even state this, but unfortunately I've encountered some... reading comprehension impaired individuals in the past: Yes, this post was sarcastic.)

[Randall Klein]

Sea change: in the '50's, Chevy stovebolts effectively eliminated Olds, Hudsons etc, then the early 60's found MoPars and 409's making inroads, but later in that decade the lanes full of '55-'57 Chevs gave way to Camaro's (mostly) with a few Mustangs, Cudas, Challengers.

It seems as if Camaros of '67-'71 held sway until the GT rules, then the F.I. stuff and now another sea change: lanes full of current Mustangs and Challengers

I'm sure each group that got "pre-empted" felt wronged. Ford stepped up with money and money talks.....I'm not sure winning on Sunday translates to Monday sales especially when we generally on the track when no one is in the stands

As an aside, of all the Mustangs and Challengers sold, where are they? I thought Ford's intent was that they be raced not collected.

[junior barns]

.....I'm not sure winning on Sunday translates to Monday sales especially when we generally on the track when no one is in the stands


This statement is so true, not just for NHRA but also NASCER too!!

[Dgal]

Originally Posted by Randall Klein

Sea change: in the '50's, Chevy stovebolts effectively eliminated Olds, Hudsons etc, then the early 60's found MoPars and 409's making inroads, but later in that decade the lanes full of '55-'57 Chevs gave way to Camaro's (mostly) with a few Mustangs, Cudas, Challengers.

It seems as if Camaros of '67-'71 held sway until the GT rules, then the F.I. stuff and now another sea change: lanes full of current Mustangs and Challengers

I'm sure each group that got "pre-empted" felt wronged. Ford stepped up with money and money talks.....I'm not sure winning on Sunday translates to Monday sales especially when we generally on the track when no one is in the stands

As an aside, of all the Mustangs and Challengers sold, where are they? I thought Ford's intent was that they be raced not collected.

At least in every instance that you mentioned the prior offerings were "pre-empted" by actual cars that existed and could be purchased and driven on the street in stock form. None of the current Cobra Jets or Drag Packs can be purchased at any dealership and driven off the lot in stock form. There is a major difference with these cars than any that you compared them to.

This would mean that they are not adhering to the spirit of "Stock Eliminator." They are more akin to Super Stock or Modified Production. The late model fuel injected Firebirds and Camaros were underrated when they came onto the scene, but they were relegated to fuel injected classes until their horsepower was corrected to fairly reflect what they should.

At a bare minimum the NHRA should relegate the Cobra Jets and Drag Packs to a sub class within Stock Eliminator until their adjusted horsepower is more accurate.

[Ken Miele]

Well, call me a fool. I would rather be a fooled racer than a spectator that hasn't been fooled. With all do respect to Terry and Bruce, we are friends, but you guys do not race NHRA, I do.

I'm having fun and its obvious your not. The old days are gone, and if you don't like what NHRA has done you need not support them. I can respect that, but you guys never have a good word for NHRA and it just gets kind of old.

I maybe a fool, but I am a happy fool