What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? - Page 2

Dale Shannon · 07-09-2010, 05:25 PM

With a Automatic car keep foot in the gas use your left foot and get on the brakes, will slow rear wheel speed.

07-09-2010, 05:40 PM

Allow a wheelie bar that actually works and does not unload the tire. Nah, that makes too much sense. Ralph's car looks like it unloaded the tires and then stuff happens quickly. Ours bent the motor mounts, headers, radiator support, spindles, tie rods and new front rims. Hope it didn't do too much damage Ralph. Shifting early sounds logical.

BP

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 07-11-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Miller

Okay, we've seen the Bob Porpora wheelstand video. If you get into one of those situations is there anyway to come out of it short of banging the front end down? Here's something that may work...

A few years ago a local S/S racer here in Louisville broke his wheelie bars and started to climb way too high. Realizing something was wrong he put his shifter into high gear, skipping second gear. Still under power the car settled down smoothly after the transmission shifted into high gear. All that was damaged was the broken wheelie bars.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

See if I could flip it all the way ?

(no Im not serious but it would be an interesting thought

69Cobra · 07-11-2010, 09:13 AM

After watching Ralph's video the car stoped going up but then he shifted into second and that's when the car went to the bumper. If he would have waited just a split second until the nose started down he would have been fine. But that's not that easy to do in the moment. BTW love the sound of that X pipe.

Jack McCarthy · 07-11-2010, 02:20 PM

damn cant say thats ever happened to me LOL

(once in an old modified car maybe)

However when randy BIGG STUFF payne went about 500 foot on the back bumper (without lifting) to beat an emmons in class at belle rose he made these comments "never thought about lifting, hell at my age what a way to go out ! "... and "when i put her in high gear she started to settle down" > so if i ever get some big air in the old U/SA wagon ill take travis and bigg's advice and throw her in high gear !!!!

captain jack

Bob Bender · 07-11-2010, 02:23 PM

This happens all the time with my car (lol) just hold on

Stephen & Horace Johnson · 07-11-2010, 02:34 PM

With as many wheelstanding antics i've done (not proud of them), I would say, you need to short shift 2nd gear and it will come down. If it still wants to come up, you need to feather the throttle. In watching the video of Ralph, if he had of short shifted 2nd gear, she woulda came down alot smoother, but things happen so fast. It all boils down to knowing where you are at in the air....Easier said than done, but Ralph did a good job, it could have been worse than that.....

John Langer · 07-13-2010, 07:40 AM

Wheel stands suck!!!!! I just stopped racing in a heads up series that I supported for 10 years because they wont allow bars. Since 1997 I have done 4 real bad wheels stands. Each time causing over 10k in damage. I am limited to a 29.5 x 10.5 tire. When the car dead hooks, it just climbs the ring gear and is on the rear valance before 40' (under 1 second). By the time you let go of the trans brake, it just climbs too fast to react. Sometimes shifting from first to third (pro flite) will hold the front end around 2.5' off the ground for 200-300', some times it doesn't and just continues to climb. Last year in Chicago I shifted 2 times and peddled the car 5 times until it finally came down around the 330'. Comments like drag the brakes and stuff like that just makes me laugh. You can either ride a wheelie out, or you can't. It isnt something you want to practice or know you are good at. If I can give 1 small piece of advice, if you do lift, make dam sure you are WOT when you come down to soften the hit.

07-09-2010, 05:25 PM	#1
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? With a Automatic car keep foot in the gas use your left foot and get on the brakes, will slow rear wheel speed.

07-09-2010, 05:40 PM	#2
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? Allow a wheelie bar that actually works and does not unload the tire. Nah, that makes too much sense. Ralph's car looks like it unloaded the tires and then stuff happens quickly. Ours bent the motor mounts, headers, radiator support, spindles, tie rods and new front rims. Hope it didn't do too much damage Ralph. Shifting early sounds logical. BP

07-11-2010, 09:13 AM	#4
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 62 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? After watching Ralph's video the car stoped going up but then he shifted into second and that's when the car went to the bumper. If he would have waited just a split second until the nose started down he would have been fine. But that's not that easy to do in the moment. BTW love the sound of that X pipe. __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032

07-11-2010, 02:20 PM	#5
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,327 Likes: 30 Liked 511 Times in 122 Posts	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? damn cant say thats ever happened to me LOL (once in an old modified car maybe) However when randy BIGG STUFF payne went about 500 foot on the back bumper (without lifting) to beat an emmons in class at belle rose he made these comments "never thought about lifting, hell at my age what a way to go out ! "... and "when i put her in high gear she started to settle down" > so if i ever get some big air in the old U/SA wagon ill take travis and bigg's advice and throw her in high gear !!!! captain jack __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

07-11-2010, 02:23 PM	#6
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,738 Likes: 1,604 Liked 462 Times in 92 Posts	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? This happens all the time with my car (lol) just hold on __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

07-11-2010, 02:34 PM	#7
Stephen & Horace Johnson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 966 Likes: 345 Liked 166 Times in 54 Posts	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? With as many wheelstanding antics i've done (not proud of them), I would say, you need to short shift 2nd gear and it will come down. If it still wants to come up, you need to feather the throttle. In watching the video of Ralph, if he had of short shifted 2nd gear, she woulda came down alot smoother, but things happen so fast. It all boils down to knowing where you are at in the air....Easier said than done, but Ralph did a good job, it could have been worse than that..... __________________ Stephen Johnson #2162 Horace Johnson #2167 SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

07-13-2010, 07:40 AM	#8
John Langer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: What would you do in a bumper scraping wheelstand? Wheel stands suck!!!!! I just stopped racing in a heads up series that I supported for 10 years because they wont allow bars. Since 1997 I have done 4 real bad wheels stands. Each time causing over 10k in damage. I am limited to a 29.5 x 10.5 tire. When the car dead hooks, it just climbs the ring gear and is on the rear valance before 40' (under 1 second). By the time you let go of the trans brake, it just climbs too fast to react. Sometimes shifting from first to third (pro flite) will hold the front end around 2.5' off the ground for 200-300', some times it doesn't and just continues to climb. Last year in Chicago I shifted 2 times and peddled the car 5 times until it finally came down around the 330'. Comments like drag the brakes and stuff like that just makes me laugh. You can either ride a wheelie out, or you can't. It isnt something you want to practice or know you are good at. If I can give 1 small piece of advice, if you do lift, make dam sure you are WOT when you come down to soften the hit.