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Old 09-13-2010, 10:02 PM   #11
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Years ago, in Denver, I listened as Mr Greene lamented the deteriorating state of NHRA class racing and tech; he later made a tough choice of exiting his hobby of choice in protest of the unfairness he observed. Back? or Final Farewell? Regardless, best wishes from your midwest friends
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:26 PM   #12
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Whatever road Arnold selects I wish him well! Whom ever bought his car got a fine piece! Jim
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Years ago, in Denver, I listened as Mr Greene lamented the deteriorating state of NHRA class racing and tech; he later made a tough choice of exiting his hobby of choice in protest of the unfairness he observed. Back? or Final Farewell? Regardless, best wishes from your midwest friends
Its to bad that more hard working racers like A.R. Green dont have the back bone to take a stand against the BS that NHRA pulls on the sportsman racers the last several years. The only way NHRA will listen is to hit them in their wallets.

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Old 09-14-2010, 11:04 AM   #14
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Its to bad that more hard working racers like A.R. Green dont have the back bone to take a stand against the BS that NHRA pulls on the sportsman racers the last several years. The only way NHRA will listen is to hit them in their wallets.
Well, Terry, the problem is how it has worked out. Arnold Greene has either served his country or worked, all of his adult life. During that time, he also worked hard at a hobby he dearly loves. Finally, after decades, he is in a position to take full advantage of his decades of work, he now has time and where with all to travel and enjoy life after labor. But NHRA has stolen the fun from his favorite hobby. Arnold, being the old school guy he is, likes to have a fair and legitimate shot at being low qualifier and winning class. To him being really fast is as important as going rounds. NHRA has taken that chance from him, in thanks for him paying their various fees as a loyal customer for some 45 years or so.

Arnold already paid a price by standing up for what he thought was right, by boycotting Division 2 because he felt Bill Holt mistreated him and his fellow racers. So now he's selling his car and getting out, not because he tired of his hobby, but because he feels he's been abused. And he's right. But he's being robbed again, now he's out of his hobby when he has the most time possible to actually enjoy it. That's the saddest part of all. Except for the fact that NHRA, and many of the "new" people in this sport, don't give a damn, and feel it was time he quit and let the "new" people and cars play. And that sentiment is exactly what is wrong with not only our sport, but our culture and our nation.
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Well, Terry, the problem is how it has worked out. Arnold Greene has either served his country or worked, all of his adult life. During that time, he also worked hard at a hobby he dearly loves. Finally, after decades, he is in a position to take full advantage of his decades of work, he now has time and where with all to travel and enjoy life after labor. But NHRA has stolen the fun from his favorite hobby. Arnold, being the old school guy he is, likes to have a fair and legitimate shot at being low qualifier and winning class. To him being really fast is as important as going rounds. NHRA has taken that chance from him, in thanks for him paying their various fees as a loyal customer for some 45 years or so.

Arnold already paid a price by standing up for what he thought was right, by boycotting Division 2 because he felt Bill Holt mistreated him and his fellow racers. So now he's selling his car and getting out, not because he tired of his hobby, but because he feels he's been abused. And he's right. But he's being robbed again, now he's out of his hobby when he has the most time possible to actually enjoy it. That's the saddest part of all. Except for the fact that NHRA, and many of the "new" people in this sport, don't give a damn, and feel it was time he quit and let the "new" people and cars play. And that sentiment is exactly what is wrong with not only our sport, but our culture and our nation.
Yes I agree....I knew A.R. when he first stopped racing with NHRA several years ago and he became an IHRA regular. We talk quite a lot about the status of stock and sportsman racers in general before I quit IHRA. I even had the chance to buy his car several years ago and just thought about it again a couple of weeks ago before the post came on about him being at English Town and had probably sold it. I was short on the amount it took to buy it at that time years ago. He is a first class guy and will be missed in stock racing. I wish him the best. My post was to point out that if more would do the same thing as he did NHRA would cave in. Money talks and BS walks as they say and if everyone would just stay home for awhile something would change in a hurry.
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Yes I agree....I knew A.R. when he first stopped racing with NHRA several years ago and he became an IHRA regular. We talk quite a lot about the status of stock and sportsman racers in general before I quit IHRA. I even had the chance to buy his car several years ago and just thought about it again a couple of weeks ago before the post came on about him being at English Town and had probably sold it. I was short on the amount it took to buy it at that time years ago. He is a first class guy and will be missed in stock racing. I wish him the best. My post was to point out that if more would do the same thing as he did NHRA would cave in. Money talks and BS walks as they say and if everyone would just stay home for awhile something would change in a hurry.
I'm not convinced NHRA would cave in. And they'll always have a segment that will show up. We might be able to get a group to act together, but it would be a small one.
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I'm not convinced NHRA would cave in. And they'll always have a segment that will show up. We might be able to get a group to act together, but it would be a small one.
Well it would be worth a try but as you say no one will stick together.
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