Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac - Page 2

Ed Fernandez · 11-01-2010, 01:31 PM

Todd,are you doing a Ford?

art leong · 11-01-2010, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

In some ways it's sad, but other ways OH WELL. In the last 20 years, what has Pontiac done for anyone who has raced one of their cars, 1990 or older? NOTHING!!!! My friends race Fords and Mopars and they still get class, and eleminator contingetcy. Not matter what year car they race. In that case screw GM all together.

My dad who worked for the company 19 years died durring his employment with them. He was a salary employee/foreman. My mother was guaranteed health coverage from them for the rest of her days. She lost it from them in the restructure. UAW employees did not. As a GM employee you cannot even buy a car at a discount anymore. I understand that they were losing money, and had to make changes. There could have been a couple of changes to the new way of doing things. Now they are doing very well again, and downsizing.

My opinion is very bias, and sure not of many on this board, but I feel I wanted to say my peace. As for Pontiac.....SCREW EM.

One of the main reasons I don't gripe about the new cars.

BlueOval Ralph · 11-01-2010, 04:49 PM

Jack says
Yesterday on Holloween Day General Motors ended all agreements with its dealer network of Pontiac agency's worldwide - after 84 years of "Excitement" they're gone ................ First Oldsmobile -- now Pontiac -- no more racing 'orphan' brands for me ............

This could very well happen!!!
It will only get sadder, if GM is sold to the Chinese, and that IS possible Just WHEN is the Question?

W J · 11-01-2010, 05:03 PM

Never mind just GM......One of these days, China is going to call in all our loans from them.....when we can't pay, word is they will take over ownership of New York City....that's not even remotely funny, but could be true......WJ

mike natoli · 11-02-2010, 10:38 AM

Sorry to hear about Pontiac yesterday. My first fast ride in a car was my older cousin's Brand new 1965 Grand Prix with a 421 superduty tri power car. Will never forget that was what hooked me. Thanks for the memories.
Oldsmobile,
Saturn,
Plymouth,
AMC,
Studebaker,
Hudson,
Packard,
Dusenberg,
Aurburn

Jack Matyas · 11-02-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunkster

If you have a problem with "no-names" like me or others, then keep your little carcus down in "NHRA/IHRA Competition Members" section.

Ken set that up so that tough guys like you could stay away from the cowards and Pecksnifs such as no-names like myself.

Bunkster -- You and Mr. Ed are hi-jacking my thread -- take it someplace else please ! ! !

cicero819 · 11-02-2010, 06:34 PM

How did GM management survived all those years? Brand loyalty is how! the minute they stopped giving what the consumer wanted and the more they gaved us those front wheel drive cars(since it made more sense for the bottom dollar) They damaged the confidence that consumer and their loyal customer had in them. Building a 4000lbs Camaro with all the options of a Cruise ship won't make new converts to Chevrolet either. I own a 1994 Pontiac Trans Am and an Oldsmobile 98 for my own personal cars and enjoy both reliable vehicles. Since I was a young man I always said : buy foreign cars get a foreign pension from them! We are buying too much Chinese junk as it is. Sorry Jack didn't mean to turn this into a political message. Thanks for the thread. Claude

11-01-2010, 01:31 PM	#1
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Todd,are you doing a Ford? __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

11-01-2010, 04:49 PM	#3
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Jack says Yesterday on Holloween Day General Motors ended all agreements with its dealer network of Pontiac agency's worldwide - after 84 years of "Excitement" they're gone ................ First Oldsmobile -- now Pontiac -- no more racing 'orphan' brands for me ............ This could very well happen!!! It will only get sadder, if GM is sold to the Chinese, and that IS possible Just WHEN is the Question?

11-01-2010, 05:03 PM	#4
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Never mind just GM......One of these days, China is going to call in all our loans from them.....when we can't pay, word is they will take over ownership of New York City....that's not even remotely funny, but could be true......WJ

11-02-2010, 10:38 AM	#5
mike natoli Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Valley Stream mini Gasoline Alley & Div I Posts: 100 Likes: 25 Liked 51 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac Sorry to hear about Pontiac yesterday. My first fast ride in a car was my older cousin's Brand new 1965 Grand Prix with a 421 superduty tri power car. Will never forget that was what hooked me. Thanks for the memories. Oldsmobile, Saturn, Plymouth, AMC, Studebaker, Hudson, Packard, Dusenberg, Aurburn

11-02-2010, 06:34 PM	#7
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Holloween 2010 - The End of Pontiac How did GM management survived all those years? Brand loyalty is how! the minute they stopped giving what the consumer wanted and the more they gaved us those front wheel drive cars(since it made more sense for the bottom dollar) They damaged the confidence that consumer and their loyal customer had in them. Building a 4000lbs Camaro with all the options of a Cruise ship won't make new converts to Chevrolet either. I own a 1994 Pontiac Trans Am and an Oldsmobile 98 for my own personal cars and enjoy both reliable vehicles. Since I was a young man I always said : buy foreign cars get a foreign pension from them! We are buying too much Chinese junk as it is. Sorry Jack didn't mean to turn this into a political message. Thanks for the thread. Claude