Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! - Page 2

wildchild22 · 11-28-2010, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hagen gary

i love this idea. In fact, i'm in the stands at every race i attend because i can't afford to race that class. Its called competition eliminator. Strap a $80,000 motor in that thing and go run super modified if you like this idea.

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GRAPE · 11-28-2010, 08:16 AM

Hey Artie
I remember NHRA tried this in 1975. Three didget index no run out.
C/S was 4.27 C/SA was 4.46 the C/SA would get a .19 head start with no run out.
It lasted only one year.
Terry Welsh

Billy Nees · 11-28-2010, 10:20 AM

Art, It'll never fly! NHRA tried it and almost killed Stock.
Now if you want to try something different (and I don't, I'm just talking here) keep the index system as it is for a reference point. Each race starts out with the indexes as we know them, they don't change from race to race. After qualifing, the fastest run in a given class becomes the "index" for that race. In eliminations, a racer can dial up to 3 tenths SLOWER than the "index" or up to 1 tenth FASTER than the "index". Example, the SS/AH index is a 9.30, the fastest SS/AH car in qualifing goes an 8.50. The "index" for this race becomes an 8.50. All SS/AH racers at this race must dial between an 8.40 and an 8.80. All heads-up runs are still flat out. At the end of the day the "index" reverts back to the index. There would still have to be some kind of an AHFS in play or maybe a panel of racers and techs to factor and defactor out of line combos but maybe the triggers could be dialed back.
There ya go, the fast guys can "wag their d**ks" and the not so fast guys have to "work on their stuff" to stay within 3 tenths of the fast guys. Problem solved, now I'm gonna work on world peace.

Michael Beard · 11-28-2010, 11:02 AM

Billy, "Ya gotta understand somethin'. The world doesn't wanna to be saved." - Billy Nees

Billy Nees · 11-28-2010, 11:16 AM

Michael, obviously those words were spoken by a truly brilliant man!

Dennis P Chapman · 11-28-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Michael, obviously those words were spoken by a truly brilliant man!

Billy
How are things going with world peace today anything new?

Billy Nees · 11-28-2010, 11:48 AM

I just put my key in the Nuke!

Chad Rhodes · 11-28-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I just put my key in the Nuke!

Iran, NK, and all the stans?

Tony Janes · 11-28-2010, 11:55 AM

How about no heads up in the eliminator? Just dial it!

Chad Rhodes · 11-28-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes

How about no heads up in the eliminator? Just dial it!

that's called a bracket race, they have those every saturday night at your local track.

11-28-2010, 08:16 AM	#12
GRAPE Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 115 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! Hey Artie I remember NHRA tried this in 1975. Three didget index no run out. C/S was 4.27 C/SA was 4.46 the C/SA would get a .19 head start with no run out. It lasted only one year. Terry Welsh

11-28-2010, 10:20 AM	#13
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,494 Likes: 3,596 Liked 7,733 Times in 1,739 Posts	Re: Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! Art, It'll never fly! NHRA tried it and almost killed Stock. Now if you want to try something different (and I don't, I'm just talking here) keep the index system as it is for a reference point. Each race starts out with the indexes as we know them, they don't change from race to race. After qualifing, the fastest run in a given class becomes the "index" for that race. In eliminations, a racer can dial up to 3 tenths SLOWER than the "index" or up to 1 tenth FASTER than the "index". Example, the SS/AH index is a 9.30, the fastest SS/AH car in qualifing goes an 8.50. The "index" for this race becomes an 8.50. All SS/AH racers at this race must dial between an 8.40 and an 8.80. All heads-up runs are still flat out. At the end of the day the "index" reverts back to the index. There would still have to be some kind of an AHFS in play or maybe a panel of racers and techs to factor and defactor out of line combos but maybe the triggers could be dialed back. There ya go, the fast guys can "wag their d**ks" and the not so fast guys have to "work on their stuff" to stay within 3 tenths of the fast guys. Problem solved, now I'm gonna work on world peace. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

11-28-2010, 11:02 AM	#14
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! Billy, "Ya gotta understand somethin'. The world doesn't wanna to be saved." - Billy Nees __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

11-28-2010, 11:16 AM	#15
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,494 Likes: 3,596 Liked 7,733 Times in 1,739 Posts	Re: Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! Michael, obviously those words were spoken by a truly brilliant man! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

11-28-2010, 11:48 AM	#17
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,494 Likes: 3,596 Liked 7,733 Times in 1,739 Posts	Re: Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! I just put my key in the Nuke! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

11-28-2010, 11:55 AM	#19
Tony Janes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Whittier, Ca Posts: 830 Likes: 94 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Idea????? Do away with the breakout!!!! How about no heads up in the eliminator? Just dial it! __________________ Tony Janes 7941 STK, SS