Performance Based Stk/SS Racing

[Urraco]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

There are several racers on this forum who are always talking about Stock and S/S losing its performance based status. Well here’s an idea where you can prove you still have performance based classes.

At the LODRS events across the country the tracks are prepped and the racers are there. Talk to your Division Director and see if he would allow you to have a combo race on Friday or Saturday night of the event. Make it a no breakout combo race that proves just how fast you can go, not who’s the best driver with a bottle of shoe polish. Either get your own sponsors or make it a gamblers race to pay the purse. Don’t expect NHRA to put up any money, do it all yourself.

My suggestion would be handicapped off the indexes with no breakout. Of course the AHFS would NOT be in effect. There would still be a need to be fuel checked and weighed just to keep everyone honest. And no ringers would be allowed. The car must be entered into and qualified at the regular LODRS event.

This would not be a TOP Stock or Top S/S race since all classes of Stock and S/S would be invited to race, not just a select few. So how many of you performance oriented racers would be willing to put up your own money to race this way? Think about it and talk to your DD for next season.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

How in the world would this ever work with the weak or complete lack of tech that we have now?

[Bob Pagano]

Why is tech a problem ? A car can run a second and a half under at a points meet and get HP on Monday, is that car checked ? What is fair about that ? Some people need to see the decisions made at national events even get overturned by higher ups. Why are good tech's handcuffed and shutdown? Seems to me nhra dose not like to tear down and would do away with it if they could which would do away with S & SS. After a whole season of unhappy people why has nhra been so closed mouth ? How about end all this crap and give rules everyone can live with, rules that are fair for all not just a few. Now is the time to announce the new rules not after the first of the year.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Why is tech a problem ? A car can run a second and a half under at a points meet and get HP on Monday, is that car checked ? What is fair about that ? Some people need to see the decisions made at national events even get overturned by higher ups. Why are good tech's handcuffed and shutdown? Seems to me nhra dose not like to tear down and would do away with it if they could which would do away with S & SS. After a whole season of unhappy people why has nhra been so closed mouth ? How about end all this crap and give rules everyone can live with, rules that are fair for all not just a few. Now is the time to announce the new rules not after the first of the year.

Bob,you've heard of divde and conquer haven't you?The internet is NHRAs biggest asset.
We get on here argueing about silly bull$hit things,like first or worse,worse redlights,pay
outs,east coast vs west coast,etc etc.NHRA sits back and let's us tear our solidarity apart and doesn't have to address the major problems with our sport.

[David Ley]

Originally Posted by Urraco

How in the world would this ever work with the weak or complete lack of tech that we have now?

Gee thanks . I guess I know where Travis , Ryck Campbell , Wayne Lewis and myself stand now after all the hours of teardowns we put in this year !

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by David Ley

Gee thanks . I guess I know where Travis , Ryck Campbell , Wayne Lewis and myself stand now after all the hours of teardowns we put in this year !

Dave.....He must have been talking about IHRA....LOL.

[Urraco]

Originally Posted by David Ley

Gee thanks . I guess I know where Travis , Ryck Campbell , Wayne Lewis and myself stand now after all the hours of teardowns we put in this year !

I was not directing to you guys personally. I was only stating that the higher ups reverse most of the decisions made at the race tech level.

[Greg Hill]

Travis, I do believe I detect a little bit of tongue-in-cheek.

[Jeff Teuton]

I didn't say that. No me. I been in the barn too many times. One funny story, a few years back I got both my full size trucks in there. I'm done with one, got the other apart and am checking stuff. I'm tired, I have had no beer, I'm grumpy, and Travis is checking my truck. I think we were checking deck height. I could not get the thing to check, hell I couldn't get the thing to stay on the block. Travis finally told me "Why don't you get out the way so I can do that and get out of here." I walked away, found a beverage, took a breather, and walked back. Travis said I had .002 to spare and in less than 10 seconds showed me why I could not get the thing to work. And there are some funny ones from Orlando over the years. One year I am through with the numbers, but hadn't started reassembly yet. The Tech guy and me walk over to Jim with the card, and in only Jim's way, he asked "This is it?", I said "Yep, all done.", He says "You sure?", "All Done.", and only Jim could say, well you better start again because this won't pass. I looked at the card, noticed the math was completely wrong, and shamefully walked back to the truck and started measuring again.

[Ed Fernandez]

Travis,a race like you suggest would only cause more resentment towards the guys running these runaway HP factors.When the racers (and NHRA officials) see what some of these cars are capable of they'll be at the door of NHRA HQ in Cal like the mob in the freanenstein movie,screaming for somebodies head.
Dave Ley,we all know and appreciate the job you local tech guys do.It seems the foot
dragging comes from upstairs.

[PB Candies]

Travis, What a great idea. I would run them at every available race.
PB Candies
SS/STK 4312