Get rid of 1k readings - Page 2

Paul Precht · 02-08-2011, 12:16 PM

If it were in my power, I would base the factoring off of 1/8 mile ET's and eliminate reaction times. Reaction times serve an important role though and that is for a racer to see and do the math on how he won or lost. Although it's possible to dump before the 1/8 mile, it would produce erratic results IMO, Paul.

Ed Wright · 02-08-2011, 12:26 PM

I'm with Dan! I've thought that for a long time but didn't have the nerve to say it. LOL!

Nitro Joe Jackson · 02-08-2011, 12:36 PM

100% with Dan, I have been saying this for years, believe it or not i was racing before RT's and back then you knew if you got a light or not, you didn't need the ticket to scare you. At nat trails we paid $1 for RT's the first year.

Best line I ever heard about RT's was from my father, he said
"RT's made the good drivers back in the day back off and the bad drivers step way up"

Michael Beard · 02-08-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

I say we get rid of ALL the incrementals AND reaction times...lets make things as challenging as possible...

LOL... Brer Rabbit!

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"RT's made the good drivers back in the day back off and the bad drivers step way up"

MAAAAAYbe back in the day, but the genie is out of the bottle. Unless they're changing the rollout between rounds, the good drivers would absolutely destroy everyone with nothing but an E.T. They know how to adjust, and they know how to drive the stripe. Joe Average that's just hanging on is a sitting duck.

Mark Faul · 02-08-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

I say we get rid of ALL the incrementals AND reaction times...lets make things as challenging as possible...

Just think how much less stressful life would be at Fletchburg racing. You wouldn't have to obsess for hours why your car was off by .002 in a certain incremental time. You'd be able to relax with a Michelob Ultra and enjoy yourself for a change! LOL

Dallas Kelly · 02-08-2011, 01:29 PM

I concur, lets return to E.T., MPH and win/lose time slips. Remember that some of us raced for many years without incremental times. The only way you had positive confirmation of a good leave was winning a heads-up race while posting a slower E.T. Uh-oh, I guess that's heresy; giving value to a heads-up race. If the skill gulf between touring drivers and the remainder of us is as great as some have indicated, why would any below that elite level ever enter a race competitively?

Ken Miele · 02-08-2011, 01:54 PM

Michael those are good points. I do not think that the people who want most of the info if not all removed from your time slip know how it would effect the average driver.

If you think the good drivers do well now, what to you see how well they do with no info available. I for one would hate to see this happen, I need every possible piece of info to have any chance of going rounds.

Thank goodness this is not something that would be taken seriously by NHRA.

Michael Beard · 02-08-2011, 02:05 PM

Giving data to the racers also acts as a checksum on the timing system. Racers can catch errors or anomolies that race officials might never see. Even though such errors they are infrequent, they do happen, whether its a hanging stage beam or an errant piece of debris blowing through the finish line beam.

Billy Pires · 02-08-2011, 02:06 PM

If we got rid of time slips all together, imagine how much ink and paper we could save. Wouldn't you guys like to save a tree?

Ed Fernandez · 02-08-2011, 03:03 PM

Something like this?

Maybe they could dress up Trickey Ricky Stewart in white pants and shirt and dump the straw hat for a white Stroker McGurk
peacap,waving his flag.

02-08-2011, 12:16 PM	#11
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 730 Likes: 353 Liked 309 Times in 118 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings If it were in my power, I would base the factoring off of 1/8 mile ET's and eliminate reaction times. Reaction times serve an important role though and that is for a racer to see and do the math on how he won or lost. Although it's possible to dump before the 1/8 mile, it would produce erratic results IMO, Paul.

02-08-2011, 12:26 PM	#12
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings I'm with Dan! I've thought that for a long time but didn't have the nerve to say it. LOL! __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-08-2011, 12:36 PM	#13
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 57 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings 100% with Dan, I have been saying this for years, believe it or not i was racing before RT's and back then you knew if you got a light or not, you didn't need the ticket to scare you. At nat trails we paid $1 for RT's the first year. Best line I ever heard about RT's was from my father, he said "RT's made the good drivers back in the day back off and the bad drivers step way up" __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

02-08-2011, 01:29 PM	#16
Dallas Kelly Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cleves, OH Posts: 141 Likes: 318 Liked 85 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings I concur, lets return to E.T., MPH and win/lose time slips. Remember that some of us raced for many years without incremental times. The only way you had positive confirmation of a good leave was winning a heads-up race while posting a slower E.T. Uh-oh, I guess that's heresy; giving value to a heads-up race. If the skill gulf between touring drivers and the remainder of us is as great as some have indicated, why would any below that elite level ever enter a race competitively?

02-08-2011, 01:54 PM	#17
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,860 Likes: 456 Liked 16,540 Times in 1,521 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings Michael those are good points. I do not think that the people who want most of the info if not all removed from your time slip know how it would effect the average driver. If you think the good drivers do well now, what to you see how well they do with no info available. I for one would hate to see this happen, I need every possible piece of info to have any chance of going rounds. Thank goodness this is not something that would be taken seriously by NHRA.

02-08-2011, 02:05 PM	#18
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings Giving data to the racers also acts as a checksum on the timing system. Racers can catch errors or anomolies that race officials might never see. Even though such errors they are infrequent, they do happen, whether its a hanging stage beam or an errant piece of debris blowing through the finish line beam. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

02-08-2011, 02:06 PM	#19
Billy Pires Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Somerset, MA Posts: 99 Likes: 6 Liked 23 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings If we got rid of time slips all together, imagine how much ink and paper we could save. Wouldn't you guys like to save a tree? __________________ Billy Pires 1414 STK, 1414 SS

02-08-2011, 03:03 PM	#20
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Get rid of 1k readings Something like this? Maybe they could dress up Trickey Ricky Stewart in white pants and shirt and dump the straw hat for a white Stroker McGurk peacap,waving his flag. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA Last edited by Ed Fernandez; 02-08-2011 at 03:09 PM.