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Old 08-04-2011, 01:01 PM   #11
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What not try to promote it at a track that is having a regular program, and see what happens? Maybe there will not be enough guys interested to spend the time and money setting it up at the divisional level. Who are you going to get that knows enough about the car to enforce the rules? Michael is right, go to IHRA and race in that program. They have spent the time, enjoy what they have to offer.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:00 PM   #12
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Robert and Jeff you both get what I'm trying to get at. New cars in the lane instead of F%$#snowmobiles. Terry with your vast knowledge of rules and Tech I know that you could come up with a minimum inspection for new cars. After my last visit a Lebannon for the divisional I was worried by the amount of Grey Hair racers(which I have also my members card) out there. We need young blood to continue to have drag racing viable and thriving. NHRA could have four classes and that would suffice. I would buy a new Mustang 5.0 in two seconds if they this.All the other sanctioning bodies are doing it, attracting the new racers, I'm sure we could do just as good of a job, Remember "what wins on Sunday sell's on Monday " is still applicable these days. Wouldn't you want to see new Challengers, Mustangs and Camaros v8 and v6 with a minimum of 300hp in the lanes instead of Snowmobiles? We could allow some Civics(the 55 chev of this generation) and Toyotas Corollas S with their 200 plus hp engines at the track, just watch the fans in the stands, they would watch it. Let's bring back fun in racing, the cars are there, they just need a place to run. Claude Ruel
Toyota corollas and Honda civic's ! I think Im going to puke ! I hate the snowmobiles also. Dodge and Ford dosent even have their current new cars listed in the class guide except for the underrated "Ringers". NHRA already has the heads up index classes that they could run in if a track wanted to use that concept or include them in the divisionals like Div. 2 ( not many have been running that program either....maybe 10 cars each for the three index's) and not worry about tech inspection tear downs, weight, fuel check, etc. Im pretty sure that the younger crowd isnt as stupid as us older gray beards (yeah....me included) to spend all that $$$$$$ for entry fee's, travel and put up with the BS called enhancements. Like it or not it is NOT a car culture world anymore except for a very few younger guys who's father, uncle, or neighbor got them hooked on this drug called drag racing. Its a good thought but I dont think it will work.......Of course Ive been wrong before like when I joined the Army and got married many moons ago. .....LOL.

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Old 08-04-2011, 02:21 PM   #13
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:06 PM   #15
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Some have gray hair.....some have bowling balls for a head !
Since when have they changed from cue balls??????????????????????
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Cue balls are down below.....bowling balls are on the shoulders......LOL. Id hate to think that my head was only as big as a cue ball.

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Ed if you don't behave I'll bring back the best red light thread! Todd I'm hoping that it catches on. Harry I'm not doing it for the fans but seeing something that they might drive might keep their fannies in the stands or even trying their cars at the track. This mentality reminds me of all the guys who bought AM Hummers and never took them in the dirt to see why they paid those big bucks. Fast cars belong on the track and Terry I know that alot of people spend a huge bundle for getting the chance for a Wally. Don't you think it would be alot nicer to see new cars such as Challengers, Mustangs, Camaros than snowmobiles in the lanes! It wouldn't cause space problem as most would just drive it to the track and change tires. West coast events will add Sea-doo's? I just want to know how the hell did someone snuck up and allowed snowmobiles on the track? Run bikes or something that makes sense, I don't care how many wheels you install under those ski, it's still dangerous. Remember as of June 2011 GM has sold 56.432 Camaros, Ford 45.846 Mustangs, Challengers 23.670. Those are great numbers even the v6 have over 300hp.Claude
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:19 PM   #18
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Let's be realistic here. NHRA is not going to add another class to tech, they don't want to be bothered to tech the classes we have now.

And honestly, another class is not going to increase participation.

Racers want to be treated better, charged a little less, and paid at least a little more when they do well.

Racers aren't staying home or quitting because of the expense and/or difficulty of building and maintaining a car. The return on that cost is something they can see and touch, they know they actually have at least a piece of property they spent money on that they can keep.

Racers are staying home or quitting because NHRA treats them badly, charges them exorbitantly, and pays them poorly. It's a low rate of return on investment in a terrible economy. That's a guaranteed way to get a low car count. Drive 300 or more miles in a tow rig, for a weekend race, and if you don't break anything, and you don't count the wear on the car or rig, you've spent $1500 for a national event, and not much less for a division race.

Witness the past weekend at Bowling Green. There were 59 cars running a Stock Super Stock combo in weather that was as hot and sticky as you'll find, with a high risk of a rain out. In fact, Saturday did rain out. But it only cost $50 for a car and driver, the track was good, and the staff treated racers like they wanted them there. THAT is all racers want. Reasonable costs, decent treatment, and a fair payout. Until they get that from NHRA, the car count is going to drop.
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You wouldn't need to tech them, this would be an entry level only(all run). I guess everyone is ok with snowmobiles instead of automobiles! We all know that Compton and his diciples are just looking to make a buck on racers, they've forgotten how the sport progress through the years. Terry you're right when you say that we're not a car culture, I see it everyday, people driving Nissan Cubes or whatever box out there people drive and loving it. Look I'm just saying, wouldn't it better to have cars out there at divisionals than snowmobiles and whatever else you want to bring in, at least bring in motorcycles. Just one of you, please tell me why it's ok to have snowmobiles instead of Pure stock cars, that all you would be allowed to change are DOT drag tires, just imagine Good-year, B.F Goodrich, Hoosier how beneficial this would be for them. I don't want to take away from the other classes just bring new blood.Claude
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