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Old 05-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #11
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Jeez, I was disappointed when they got rid of stock rear springs...
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:04 PM   #12
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Bobbie:
Seems like an odd question coming from you.

What you don't see is the engineering and work involved in building a modern Super Stock racecar chassis.

These no longer have 40 plus year old stock suspensions but well designed and constructed components to handle the power and speed of today's Super Stock engines.

Those of us that have build and are building these racecars primarily specialize in them alone. We have continued to keep these cars state of the art........and safe.

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Old 05-04-2012, 08:14 PM   #13
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Do you also mean that FWD should stay FWD and not converted to a RWD???
I didn't see that anywhere! I have built several of these fwd to rwd cars. And if youv'e never tried it, it's quite a project. Starting with aftermarket, struts and brakes, making a firewall, driveshaft tunnel and transmission tunnel and yes mounting to rack. I will say, I could build a rwd car 4 times quicker than fwd conversion and may do one soon to take advantage of an easier index. As far a rack for steering verses steering box, I see a weight advantage and for those drag links through the oil pan (chevy II) It would be easier to build a good pan. I think the rule is fine the way it is. sorry Bobby

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Old 05-04-2012, 09:51 PM   #14
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I didn't see that anywhere! I have built several of these fwd to rwd cars. And if youv'e never tried it, it's quite a project. Starting with aftermarket, struts and brakes, making a firewall, driveshaft tunnel and transmission tunnel and yes mounting to rack. I will say, I could build a rwd car 4 times quicker than fwd conversion and may do one soon to take advantage of an easier index. As far a rack for steering verses steering box, I see a weight advantage and for those drag links through the oil pan (chevy II) It would be easier to build a good pan. I think the rule is fine the way it is. sorry Bobby

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Ernie, I am very familiar with the evolution of the FWD SS cars. The early Olds cars built by FJ and others, do not even come close to new new generation of FWD cars. The early cars still kept the original lower control arms, modified to accept the Strange struts and did not have fabricated K-members either. They had a modified OEM K-member.

I could continue picking on the differences between the early and newer FWD. It is not fair for a RWD car to have a heads-up against an later FWD car.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:15 PM   #15
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Ernie, I am very familiar with the evolution of the FWD SS cars. The early Olds cars built by FJ and others, do not even come close to new new generation of FWD cars. The early cars still kept the original lower control arms, modified to accept the Strange struts and did not have fabricated K-members either. They had a modified OEM K-member.

I could continue picking on the differences between the early and newer FWD. It is not fair for a RWD car to have a heads-up against an later FWD car.
This is why the fwd conversions only run GT. If you want to run another car headsup, and have it be fair, run your rwd car in Super stock.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:22 PM   #16
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But some of the new Mustangs have adapted the GT Struts

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Old 05-05-2012, 12:24 PM   #17
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This is why the fwd conversions only run GT. If you want to run another car headsup, and have it be fair, run your rwd car in Super stock.
Why, worried that a RWD built under the same rules would be competitive against a FWD???
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:59 PM   #18
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I wouldn't be surprised if you see new rule changes aimed at making the older cars safer for the speeds they are running. Just saying.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:36 PM   #19
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You never answered Why you think the older cars are unsafe! Are you after a r&p for your Chevy II?

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I wouldn't be surprised if you see new rule changes aimed at making the older cars safer for the speeds they are running. Just saying.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:48 PM   #20
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ask any of the Hemi guys about breaking a box and losing steering. Of course, I'd love to have a modern day manufactured rack and pinion on my wagon -- running in the nines as opposed to the stock unit. Who wouldn't?

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