What's with the hood... - Page 2

X-TECH MAN · 03-16-2013, 10:15 AM

I hate to inform you but this is another NHRA tech deal if this is indeed a Super Stock car. This hood only came later on the 1964 A/FX 427 Comet Calientes (sp?) after Mercury found out they flowed more air to the carbs than the T-Bolt style hood scoop. Ronnie Sox recieved the first of the new style hoods. The early 1964 A/FX Comets had the T-Bolt style hood. All were fiberglass in 64 and 65 ! More NHRA stupidity. Even the 64 289/271 cars (very very few made) had the standard steel hood. The 289/271 engines cars that were not B/FX in 1965 were more plentiful yet still had the standard steel hood.
The rest of you are smoking some good stuff as Mark Y is 1000 % correct. The same style hood scoop came on the 1965 A/FX cars on the Cyclone body. They also came on the 1965 B/FX Cyclones with the 289's. Just another NHRA "BJ". The Super Stocker in the picture is bogus yet NHRA seems to allowed it.

Dwight Southerland · 03-16-2013, 10:16 AM

Probably need a FoMoCo historian on this one, but I seem to remember that the hood was made available on Caliente models only to commemorate the East African Safari deal. Base engine on the Caliente was a 6-banger so I doubt it was considered a real performance option. The question is whether or not it was cosmetic or really a fresh air service as it was installed on production cars.

Jeff Kempton · 03-16-2013, 10:19 AM

A friend still has the hood from his old Caliente in the rafters of his garage. It was a small block car and the hood was factory installed and fibreglass. I don't recall the year of his car offhand though.

If I recall correctly, a recent Hemmings Musclecar issue featured a restored Comet with this hood and it was documented as factory. I'll have a look for it when I get home.

partsbob67 · 03-16-2013, 10:33 AM

I think that x-tech man is correct. I think you could get it as an dealer installed option from ford. have to check my micro fishe at work but seems like the only hood listed is the flat hood with no scoops.

X-TECH MAN · 03-16-2013, 11:13 AM

Its hard to read the class on the windshield in the picture posted by Mark but if its SS/M then the engine is the factory 289/210 HP combo. That hood for that combo is BOGUS except some tech guy allowed it like so many other BS deals over the past several years within NHRA. Good eye Mark. You should work tech for NHRA.

Ed Wright · 03-16-2013, 12:37 PM

I know the 271hp Mustang just came with the normal flat steel hood. Good friend had one new. Best I remember, the only way you could tell it was a 271 was when it started up.

boster · 03-16-2013, 01:07 PM

This car was parked next to me in Gainesville and it's very nice as is the owner Dick Lux. The car is SS/M with a 289 , He bought the car 7 or 8 years ago from a long time NHRA racer . From what he told me the cars has raced NHRA for a very long time with at least 4 or 5 owners . He stated he had the 427 engine for the car but because of health reason he ran the 289 .

I dont think he is bogus nor is the car . He just a guy that loves God , Fords and Racing and I thought was a true gentleman . I think he also celebrated his birthday at the track racing and he seemed to have a lot of other racers and friends enjoying it with him .

The hood on this car is fine , no one at the races had a complaint lets leave it at that .

Oh by the way he is a older man banging a 4 speed and doing a great job of it . If you dont race the event stay out of it , if it really bother you show up and protest it . My bet is if you do the car will pass and you will look like a A** . I have seen this car at a lot of D1 and D2 races as well as national events

Bob Rice · 03-16-2013, 01:20 PM

Don't know if this is the same car that Mike Cates raced in 2011 but Mike's car had the flat hood on it and also ran SS/M.
Bob R

Red LeBlanc · 03-16-2013, 01:57 PM

Probably been down track more than most cars.Did belong to Mike Cates.. D Lux is a gentleman and a friend. Red LeBlanc. Just My two cents.

Ed Fernandez · 03-16-2013, 02:57 PM

This thread is sort of like the car in Div.3,a rambler American,that had the 1969
S/CRambler hood scoop.Last I remember he was allowed to run it because it wasn't functional.
IIRC NHRA gave Artie L. some crap about the fender "scoops" on his car a while back.
Kind of a harsh criticism eh Bo? Mark is a way bit more than a casual observer.

03-16-2013, 10:15 AM	#11
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... I hate to inform you but this is another NHRA tech deal if this is indeed a Super Stock car. This hood only came later on the 1964 A/FX 427 Comet Calientes (sp?) after Mercury found out they flowed more air to the carbs than the T-Bolt style hood scoop. Ronnie Sox recieved the first of the new style hoods. The early 1964 A/FX Comets had the T-Bolt style hood. All were fiberglass in 64 and 65 ! More NHRA stupidity. Even the 64 289/271 cars (very very few made) had the standard steel hood. The 289/271 engines cars that were not B/FX in 1965 were more plentiful yet still had the standard steel hood. The rest of you are smoking some good stuff as Mark Y is 1000 % correct. The same style hood scoop came on the 1965 A/FX cars on the Cyclone body. They also came on the 1965 B/FX Cyclones with the 289's. Just another NHRA "BJ". The Super Stocker in the picture is bogus yet NHRA seems to allowed it. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 03-16-2013 at 11:07 AM.

03-16-2013, 10:16 AM	#12
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,001 Likes: 64 Liked 779 Times in 193 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... Probably need a FoMoCo historian on this one, but I seem to remember that the hood was made available on Caliente models only to commemorate the East African Safari deal. Base engine on the Caliente was a 6-banger so I doubt it was considered a real performance option. The question is whether or not it was cosmetic or really a fresh air service as it was installed on production cars.

03-16-2013, 10:19 AM	#13
Jeff Kempton Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 236 Likes: 1,043 Liked 66 Times in 30 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... A friend still has the hood from his old Caliente in the rafters of his garage. It was a small block car and the hood was factory installed and fibreglass. I don't recall the year of his car offhand though. If I recall correctly, a recent Hemmings Musclecar issue featured a restored Comet with this hood and it was documented as factory. I'll have a look for it when I get home. Last edited by Jeff Kempton; 03-16-2013 at 10:25 AM. Reason: Added more info

03-16-2013, 10:33 AM	#14
partsbob67 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: rohnert park,ca Posts: 414 Likes: 11 Liked 79 Times in 11 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... I think that x-tech man is correct. I think you could get it as an dealer installed option from ford. have to check my micro fishe at work but seems like the only hood listed is the flat hood with no scoops. __________________ bob beals 7244

03-16-2013, 11:13 AM	#15
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... Its hard to read the class on the windshield in the picture posted by Mark but if its SS/M then the engine is the factory 289/210 HP combo. That hood for that combo is BOGUS except some tech guy allowed it like so many other BS deals over the past several years within NHRA. Good eye Mark. You should work tech for NHRA. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 03-16-2013 at 12:02 PM.

03-16-2013, 12:37 PM	#16
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... I know the 271hp Mustang just came with the normal flat steel hood. Good friend had one new. Best I remember, the only way you could tell it was a 271 was when it started up. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-16-2013, 01:07 PM	#17
boster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: usa Posts: 958 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... This car was parked next to me in Gainesville and it's very nice as is the owner Dick Lux. The car is SS/M with a 289 , He bought the car 7 or 8 years ago from a long time NHRA racer . From what he told me the cars has raced NHRA for a very long time with at least 4 or 5 owners . He stated he had the 427 engine for the car but because of health reason he ran the 289 . I dont think he is bogus nor is the car . He just a guy that loves God , Fords and Racing and I thought was a true gentleman . I think he also celebrated his birthday at the track racing and he seemed to have a lot of other racers and friends enjoying it with him . The hood on this car is fine , no one at the races had a complaint lets leave it at that . Oh by the way he is a older man banging a 4 speed and doing a great job of it . If you dont race the event stay out of it , if it really bother you show up and protest it . My bet is if you do the car will pass and you will look like a A** . I have seen this car at a lot of D1 and D2 races as well as national events __________________ Bo Kenney Last edited by boster; 03-19-2013 at 06:51 PM.

03-16-2013, 01:20 PM	#18
Bob Rice Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 617 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: What's with the hood... Don't know if this is the same car that Mike Cates raced in 2011 but Mike's car had the flat hood on it and also ran SS/M. Bob R

03-16-2013, 01:57 PM	#19
Red LeBlanc Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bartlett Tn.. Just out side Memphis Posts: 145 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... Probably been down track more than most cars.Did belong to Mike Cates.. D Lux is a gentleman and a friend. Red LeBlanc. Just My two cents. __________________ Red LeBlanc 4998 SS

03-16-2013, 02:57 PM	#20
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: What's with the hood... This thread is sort of like the car in Div.3,a rambler American,that had the 1969 S/CRambler hood scoop.Last I remember he was allowed to run it because it wasn't functional. IIRC NHRA gave Artie L. some crap about the fender "scoops" on his car a while back. Kind of a harsh criticism eh Bo? Mark is a way bit more than a casual observer. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA