273 235HP Barracuda - Page 2

Greg Reimer 7376 · 04-03-2013, 02:45 PM

Not just Mopars, but all across the board, many combos had a soft factory horsepower rating. Besides the fact that factories wanted to see their iron do well in class racing,there was a lot of pressure from insurance companies about cars with 425 horsepower and a 4 speed running around on the streets. The muscle cars were big sellers and the manufacturers didn't want to have a bunch of cars on the lot that were uninsureable, therefore unsellable, so that was an attempt to hide some of the facts from a negative power that was. That explains 290 horse 302's,295 horse 350's, 325 horse 396's, even the 450 horse 454. How much would any one of these engines been able to really produce on a dyno sans accessories, with optimal timimg and jetting, dyno headers, etc. anyway. What did the 440 6 pack and the LS-6 actually make, as well as scads of others? If a company actually wants to make a car, they have to be able to sell it.

njk53 · 04-04-2013, 02:11 PM

How can you run a 273-235 HP in a regular Valiant? As far as I can remember that engine was only available in the Barracuda and the Dodge Dart but not in a Valiant.

jmcarter · 04-04-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by njk53

How can you run a 273-235 HP in a regular Valiant? As far as I can remember that engine was only available in the Barracuda and the Dodge Dart but not in a Valiant.

If it's in the class guide (which it is) then you can run it....

Dwight Southerland · 04-04-2013, 04:26 PM

A friend in high school bought a red '65 Valiant 100 2-dr with a 273-235hp 4-speed positrac. Fun car except it had the little 7 1/4" rear end.

Rory McNeil · 04-04-2013, 06:07 PM

The 235 HP 273 was a regular production option, in High school I owned a 65 Valiant Signet with the 235 273 4 speed, and there were several others in the area, both 65 & 66.

treessavoy · 04-04-2013, 11:55 PM

You could get the 273/235 in all the A bodies except for the wagons. I've got a 65 Valiant 2dr sedan minus engine sitting in my "on deck" circle waiting for it's turn in the garage.

JimR

Mark Yacavone · 04-05-2013, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

You could get the 273/235 in all the A bodies except for the wagons. I've got a 65 Valiant 2dr sedan minus engine sitting in my "on deck" circle waiting for it's turn in the garage.

JimR

They are in the book, Jim
65 Dart wagon, N/Stock stick....Cool!

Dwight Southerland · 04-05-2013, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

They are in the book, Jim
65 Dart wagon, N/Stock stick....Cool!

Love those small motor 4-speed stocker wagons from the '60s!

Jeff Lee · 04-05-2013, 11:47 AM

Somebody needs to build a '67 Rambler wagon with a 290 and a 4-speed!

treessavoy · 04-05-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

They are in the book, Jim
65 Dart wagon, N/Stock stick....Cool!

Mark,

Isn't that the 273/180, 2 bbl version?

JimR

04-03-2013, 02:45 PM	#11
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,135 Likes: 172 Liked 704 Times in 218 Posts	Re: 273 235HP Barracuda Not just Mopars, but all across the board, many combos had a soft factory horsepower rating. Besides the fact that factories wanted to see their iron do well in class racing,there was a lot of pressure from insurance companies about cars with 425 horsepower and a 4 speed running around on the streets. The muscle cars were big sellers and the manufacturers didn't want to have a bunch of cars on the lot that were uninsureable, therefore unsellable, so that was an attempt to hide some of the facts from a negative power that was. That explains 290 horse 302's,295 horse 350's, 325 horse 396's, even the 450 horse 454. How much would any one of these engines been able to really produce on a dyno sans accessories, with optimal timimg and jetting, dyno headers, etc. anyway. What did the 440 6 pack and the LS-6 actually make, as well as scads of others? If a company actually wants to make a car, they have to be able to sell it.

04-04-2013, 02:11 PM	#12
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 273 235HP Barracuda How can you run a 273-235 HP in a regular Valiant? As far as I can remember that engine was only available in the Barracuda and the Dodge Dart but not in a Valiant. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,000 Likes: 64 Liked 777 Times in 193 Posts	Re: 273 235HP Barracuda A friend in high school bought a red '65 Valiant 100 2-dr with a 273-235hp 4-speed positrac. Fun car except it had the little 7 1/4" rear end.

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Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,103 Times in 301 Posts	Re: 273 235HP Barracuda The 235 HP 273 was a regular production option, in High school I owned a 65 Valiant Signet with the 235 273 4 speed, and there were several others in the area, both 65 & 66. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

04-04-2013, 11:55 PM	#16
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 273 235HP Barracuda You could get the 273/235 in all the A bodies except for the wagons. I've got a 65 Valiant 2dr sedan minus engine sitting in my "on deck" circle waiting for it's turn in the garage. JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

04-05-2013, 11:47 AM	#19
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 273 235HP Barracuda Somebody needs to build a '67 Rambler wagon with a 290 and a 4-speed! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX