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Old 07-11-2013, 08:20 AM   #11
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I agree. It is something that it seems that they pick and choose when to enforce it. I was at Belle Rose for the divisional and watched our current world champ roll smoke off of the tires and nothing said about it and I was still in the staging lanes when I saw it so I can promise you the starter and the people in the tower should have seen it as well, or they aren't paying attention to the things they should be. The pic that was mentioned earlier was also taken at Belle Rose a few years ago, and yes, he should have been disqualified as well. A rule is a rule, but some will do anything to try and turn on a win light. I'm with Chuck on the fact that if you stuff your car into mine because of excessive braking, you better have a lot of cash in your pocket or it won't be pretty. I may not have the nicest stuff out there, but I work for everything that I have and don't need it taken from me because of stupidity
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #12
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I have been reading this site for a long time, but this is my first post. I just finished my burn out when I saw the car in the left lane at the finish line go up in smoke and shoot to the right lane and then back to his lane. I don't know Jon, but I was asked earlier in the day if I knew why is mph was so slow. Looked to me Ray Connolly was lucky to still have a race car.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:13 AM   #13
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I'm not dumping on Jon- hell I don't even know him and I'm sure he has learned a valuable Lesson. I only dump on people I know !
We've all hit the brakes and whomped to death trying to salvage a win, but safety always comes first. Perhaps the rule should be re-written with more defination like if I'm DQ"d in one class then I should be DQ'd for the event in other classes I run too.
Reading the rule- it's ok to lockem up and smokem as long as I stay between the lines.

>> From the NHRA Ruelbook, under the Race Procedures Section:

"Anytime it has been judged that excessive braking has resulted in loss of control that results in contact with the guardrail and/or light fixtures or crossing the center boundary lines, including past the finish line, the contestant will be disqualified."

This rule applies to heads-up as well as dial-in or index classes.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:00 PM   #14
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I will agree with you Chuck Wescott, on everything but one statement you made and that is "we have all done it". I have never braked to win a race, and I never will. Maybe I am just chicken, or don't want to win bad enough. That may be a reason that I am not a contender. I whop the throttle and let off, but braking, going 140 + and trying to see the finish line and you opponent coming up on you like crazy. It is not worth it. Oh by the way, my brake lights actually work on my car, when you hit the brakes, the brake lights come on. And all my brake lights work. I am not saying any body elses does, or does not, I just am not in the position to see them, cause I am usually ahead 200 feet from the finish line.
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:26 PM   #15
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Steve, That is only because you swap feet 5 times get the probe down the track and you are too tired to hit the brakes!!!! LOL
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:45 PM   #16
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Ron,
That's some funny *hit ! Is he still pulling gears in S/Gas ?
Hell I coudn't hit the brakes either if I was doing all that. Best I can do is hit the tree and hang on for the ride, isn't that what it's all about ?
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:20 PM   #17
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I would be curious to hear from racers who have had success in a category that involves a "breakout" that have NEVER hit the brakes on at least one occasion.I have to believe the percentage is small.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:08 PM   #18
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Like I said on another site, I think this could be policed by watching the amout of mph being killed.... ....
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I agree. It is something that it seems that they pick and choose when to enforce it. I was at Belle Rose for the divisional and watched our current world champ roll smoke off of the tires and nothing said about it and I was still in the staging lanes when I saw it so I can promise you the starter and the people in the tower should have seen it as well, or they aren't paying attention to the things they should be. The pic that was mentioned earlier was also taken at Belle Rose a few years ago, and yes, he should have been disqualified as well. A rule is a rule, but some will do anything to try and turn on a win light. I'm with Chuck on the fact that if you stuff your car into mine because of excessive braking, you better have a lot of cash in your pocket or it won't be pretty. I may not have the nicest stuff out there, but I work for everything that I have and don't need it taken from me because of stupidity
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In the essence of fair reporting, I was at the finish line for said world champ tire smokin round at belle rose. I'm not sure if it was the divisional or the sports national either. I remember thinking that he did not jump on them hard when he went through and was definitely not excessive, but it did smoke them. It happened to him at both the national and divisional at belle rose. I have seen many other cars smoke at belle rose in various classes. I just think it is one of those places that generates tire smoke at the finish line. Just go look at the picture in the bar of Jeff hefler and one of the Emmons, then you'll see smoke. It's a weird phenomenon at that track.

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I have been reading this site for a long time, but this is my first post. I just finished my burn out when I saw the car in the left lane at the finish line go up in smoke and shoot to the right lane and then back to his lane. I don't know Jon, but I was asked earlier in the day if I knew why is mph was so slow. Looked to me Ray Connolly was lucky to still have a race car.
Glad to see you here. I was pitted next to you at INDY a few years ago......I thought, Man there are alot of shift levers in there for SG car........LMAO.
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