Items allowed by NHRA over the years - Page 2

Mike Carr · 01-03-2015, 02:47 PM

Fuel cells and wheelie bars since the turn of the century. At age thirty-five, I wasn't around, or following at least, Class Racing to know how many rules changes came about. I know the cam/valvetrain changes in the mid 1980's had mixed reactions. Getting away from the shipping weight used as minimum weight, and weighed without driver, was definitely a good change (no penalty for us bigger folks; back when I raced I was 260-270 pounds).

Barnstorm · 01-03-2015, 09:21 PM

The Mopar 383-343 cars that the factory never made....or 57 Chev 283 FI sedan deliveries with a Hydramatic....or what else??

Dick Butler · 01-03-2015, 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=Barnstorm;457346]The Mopar 383-343 cars that the factory never made....or 57 Chev 283 FI sedan deliveries with a Hydramatic....or what else??[/QUOTE

Marv Ripes and his A-1 Automatic development of a good PG to replace the HYDRO occurred at about the same time as the NHRA decided that too many sedan deliveries were dominating classes due to any motor any body.
Then the , had to be available in the body with the trans became the rule...about two years before all the "old" cars were blocked out of Stock and into SS.

Chris Barnes · 01-03-2015, 09:35 PM

I just put some of those evil plastic seats in my wagon when I was prepping the car to run in "B". I really loved my bench but it was heavy.

The first two years that I ran in Stock I was wearing a teeshirt and running deep in the tens. That was so cool, literally. Now we have to wear jackets and the pants.

Rick Kolber · 01-03-2015, 09:49 PM

About '85 you could ditch the crank driven fan w/pump.

Larry Hill · 01-04-2015, 12:20 AM

High quality connecting rods made the sport safer and cheaper.

Paul Wong · 01-04-2015, 01:21 AM

This is pretty amazing if I think about it.
In no particular order since I have been racing.
Overlap on cams
Stock seats
Belt driven water pump
Fuel cell
Manual fuel pumps
Stock rocker arms
Stock radiators
Stock rods
Stock valve springs
Stock valve jobs
Stock trim, emblems, hell correct year car for the class this can be a whole topic of entertainment all to itself.
Correct transmissions
Heads that look correct
This could go on forever. I need some of my mentors to put a real list together

I do wish I could have got a shot at junior stock 7 inch tires and all!

treessavoy · 01-04-2015, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barnstorm

The Mopar 383-343 cars that the factory never made....or 57 Chev 283 FI sedan deliveries with a Hydramatic....or what else??

If Mopar never built the 383/343 and the 413/395 engines then why do I find both types of 2x4 manifolds at Mopar swap meets. I have never had anyone tell me where they came from. Not being a wise butt just seeking knowledge.

JimR

Jeff Teuton · 01-04-2015, 11:16 AM

If someone will remind me, I will look up the 343. I have the manuals back to 60 on all Mopars. I don't think the racing had input in the very early years (60 or so). I do know I have found stuff that was put in the parts books just to have it so NHRA could find it. We had two of those in wagons.

Barnstorm · 01-04-2015, 12:05 PM

The 343 intake 1827899 dates back to 1958 on various combos...the RB intake was on the 59 C-300 and more. Jim Johnson got the "parts bin" 343 approved in 1962 and was soon sold to Hemi legend Rick Johnson and soon there were copys....this was dicussed at length in the nostalgia section a few years back

01-03-2015, 02:47 PM	#11
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years Fuel cells and wheelie bars since the turn of the century. At age thirty-five, I wasn't around, or following at least, Class Racing to know how many rules changes came about. I know the cam/valvetrain changes in the mid 1980's had mixed reactions. Getting away from the shipping weight used as minimum weight, and weighed without driver, was definitely a good change (no penalty for us bigger folks; back when I raced I was 260-270 pounds). __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

01-03-2015, 09:21 PM	#12
Barnstorm Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years The Mopar 383-343 cars that the factory never made....or 57 Chev 283 FI sedan deliveries with a Hydramatic....or what else??

01-03-2015, 09:28 PM	#13
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years [QUOTE=Barnstorm;457346]The Mopar 383-343 cars that the factory never made....or 57 Chev 283 FI sedan deliveries with a Hydramatic....or what else??[/QUOTE Marv Ripes and his A-1 Automatic development of a good PG to replace the HYDRO occurred at about the same time as the NHRA decided that too many sedan deliveries were dominating classes due to any motor any body. Then the , had to be available in the body with the trans became the rule...about two years before all the "old" cars were blocked out of Stock and into SS.

01-03-2015, 09:35 PM	#14
Chris Barnes Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 139 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years I just put some of those evil plastic seats in my wagon when I was prepping the car to run in "B". I really loved my bench but it was heavy. The first two years that I ran in Stock I was wearing a teeshirt and running deep in the tens. That was so cool, literally. Now we have to wear jackets and the pants.

01-03-2015, 09:49 PM	#15
Rick Kolber Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 98 Likes: 20 Liked 32 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years About '85 you could ditch the crank driven fan w/pump.

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Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,633 Likes: 1,928 Liked 10,687 Times in 2,225 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years High quality connecting rods made the sport safer and cheaper. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 01-04-2015 at 12:23 AM.

01-04-2015, 01:21 AM	#17
Paul Wong Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 384 Likes: 101 Liked 419 Times in 85 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years This is pretty amazing if I think about it. In no particular order since I have been racing. Overlap on cams Stock seats Belt driven water pump Fuel cell Manual fuel pumps Stock rocker arms Stock radiators Stock rods Stock valve springs Stock valve jobs Stock trim, emblems, hell correct year car for the class this can be a whole topic of entertainment all to itself. Correct transmissions Heads that look correct This could go on forever. I need some of my mentors to put a real list together I do wish I could have got a shot at junior stock 7 inch tires and all! Last edited by Paul Wong; 01-04-2015 at 01:29 AM.

01-04-2015, 11:16 AM	#19
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years If someone will remind me, I will look up the 343. I have the manuals back to 60 on all Mopars. I don't think the racing had input in the very early years (60 or so). I do know I have found stuff that was put in the parts books just to have it so NHRA could find it. We had two of those in wagons. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

01-04-2015, 12:05 PM	#20
Barnstorm Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Items allowed by NHRA over the years The 343 intake 1827899 dates back to 1958 on various combos...the RB intake was on the 59 C-300 and more. Jim Johnson got the "parts bin" 343 approved in 1962 and was soon sold to Hemi legend Rick Johnson and soon there were copys....this was dicussed at length in the nostalgia section a few years back