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Old 07-27-2015, 11:42 AM   #1
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Ms. Pontiac Maniac , a very insightful post that really got me to thinking...but as Larry Morgan would say....You can't fix STUPID....and I really believe that is what WE are up against. WE all share a passion for the sport where as the board of directors share a passion for the bottom line and their overpaid salaries. They can't identify with us because they have never towed all night long to get to a race because.....they are NOT racers. They never spent an evening thrashing on the car because they are not racers. They are SUITS and they haven't got a clue.The original CAR people are gone . And it's a shame because Wally would not have wanted it this way.....M.J.
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:54 PM   #2
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Ms. Pontiac Maniac , a very insightful post that really got me to thinking...but as Larry Morgan would say....You can't fix STUPID....and I really believe that is what WE are up against. WE all share a passion for the sport where as the board of directors share a passion for the bottom line and their overpaid salaries. They can't identify with us because they have never towed all night long to get to a race because.....they are NOT racers. They never spent an evening thrashing on the car because they are not racers. They are SUITS and they haven't got a clue.The original CAR people are gone . And it's a shame because Wally would not have wanted it this way.....M.J.
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Old 07-28-2015, 10:25 AM   #3
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Ms. Pontiac Maniac , a very insightful post that really got me to thinking...but as Larry Morgan would say....You can't fix STUPID....and I really believe that is what WE are up against. WE all share a passion for the sport where as the board of directors share a passion for the bottom line and their overpaid salaries. They can't identify with us because they have never towed all night long to get to a race because.....they are NOT racers. They never spent an evening thrashing on the car because they are not racers. They are SUITS and they haven't got a clue.The original CAR people are gone . And it's a shame because Wally would not have wanted it this way.....M.J.
Very well stated, M.J.. I couldn't agree with you more.
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:19 PM   #4
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Ms. Pontiac Maniac , a very insightful post that really got me to thinking...but as Larry Morgan would say....You can't fix STUPID....and I really believe that is what WE are up against. WE all share a passion for the sport where as the board of directors share a passion for the bottom line and their overpaid salaries. They can't identify with us because they have never towed all night long to get to a race because.....they are NOT racers. They never spent an evening thrashing on the car because they are not racers. They are SUITS and they haven't got a clue.The original CAR people are gone . And it's a shame because Wally would not have wanted it this way.....M.J.
I am sure I will get hammered for this but Wally was in on hiring all the suits that are running the show. The all about the bottom line started long before Wally was gone.
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As all of you know NHRA had their meeting this morning regarding the future of pro stock. While everyone will agree that its time for an upgrade in the class like the changes to EFI.... I can't say that they are attempting to do anything to grow our sport. The sportsman racers have felt it for years. We come to an NHRA race because we want to win some of the most prestigious drag races of all. However, we pay outrageous entry fees, race for little money, get scratched from rounds, pushed to the side....which we might gripe about but at the end of the day it is all worth it to win that Wally. The meaning of that Wally at the end of a Sunday means exactly what Wally Parks wanted it to for us drag racers. It wasn't just meant for the Force family and the Schumachers....it was meant for the Fletcher's, Biondo's, and the Average Joe's too. What I see happening in Pro Stock is just a reflection of how the leaders of NHRA have treated us sportsman racers for years.

Out of the pro stock racers I know... none of them were even asked about what they think would help the class or what they would like to see in the future. Were supposed to believe a press release that says their making efforts to improve our sport and striving towards the future but what about all of us that make up the heart of NHRA.... For example, look at the post from John Gaydosh of face book...

"They are going to kill the little teams like us if you want to see flat hoods and smaller engines go watch super stock or go watch the copo and the Mustang and the chalanger in the factory show down .We like the challenge of trying to go faster with what we have pro stock has evolved in to what it is for a reason. Its the hardest class to compleat in don't complain about a class you don't run in and make changes that you think will make it better with out asking how it affects everybody in the class. I like the change of Turning the cars around and other things but explain to me how this change is going to bring more people to race this class and how this is going to be cheaper for us little guys or anybody else now all the cars are going to be fitted with new front ends and what about the K&N challenge what happens to that sponsor a lot to think about everybody wants to fix something that they don't even spend thier hard earned money on you don't see any of the pro stock drivers complaining about anything but we need more tv time to help promote our sponsors not a split screen with fuel car teams working on their cars show us doing what we do best turn a car around and go and make the best cars out their run fast"

While I personally don't know the answers to fix the class or NHRA... I do know the way it has all been handled is heartbreaking. I feel for the guys who have worked for years with passion for a class they loved, and the ones like Bo who have dreamed of racing such a "drivers" class...all the years of dedication to NHRA didn't matter in the decisions that were made, their opinions didn't matter, their ideas got nothing more than a "next question please" response. I was even told that when Greg Stanfield mentioned raising the purse to help the class with these changes and to help bring in new racers he was told "It is not up for discussion". V. Gains even asked about the future of comp and was told that the sportsman racers are a portion but their not professionals and they don't effect the bottom line.

With all this being said, I ask those of you who love the sport and NHRA like I do... What can we do to fix the problem and take back a sport we love?
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crate motors, EFI, back half stick shift only
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EFI, Ethanal haven't done any thing for nascar the stands are not full
my 2 cents We like Pro Mod. top fuel bye bye
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:11 PM   #6
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New Pro Stock two out of three match races at Divisionals. Advertise locally .That will bring spectators out.

NHRA , get off the wallet and subsidize it instead of forcing new costs on the actual racers
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It is a known fact that Wally hand picked Tom Compton to lead NHRA. Wally was up in years and so were the original CAR people that served on the board of directors. I have NO idea why Tom Compton is no longer leading us, NHRA will not tell us ,. and I won't deal with rumors or innuendo. M.J.
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