Gainesville - Page 2

Charley Downing · 02-18-2016, 10:19 AM

Who was that?

Ken Miele · 02-18-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Tony I think most racers that have silver or gold cards wait until after the event has filled before they enter. The bigger question is how dose Vic cagnazzi enter a event like Gainesville after it has reached it's quota.
He's not a past world camp
He did not finsh top ten last year
He's does not have a gold card
He's not currently running or owning a pro team

That's the question guys with 3-2 grade points should be asking. Why is this guy allowed to enter after the event was full. I believe Vic only had 3 grade points.

Charley,

Before you slam Victor, you should do some research. Victor won two Pro Stock World Championships as an owner, owner points due count.

4543 · 02-18-2016, 10:57 AM

Charlie, Went to my first NHRA points race in 1974. Ran Super Stock for about 6 years in Div 4. Quit for a few years then built Stock Eliminator car that we still race today now in Div 2. Over the years I probably averaged 4 National events and 4-5 points races each year. I was scheduled to run two more points races(Bowling Green & Reynolds) last year but ended up at home because of a family emergency. Last year it there were openings in Gainesville & Indy that you could have entered with two grade points. Guess I was just surprised that it took so many to get in this year. I'm happy for the people who got in but just think that maybe the quota system needs a little revamping. Good luck to everyone at Gainesville. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

Charley Downing · 02-18-2016, 10:58 AM

Kenny that's the biggest line of ***** I have heard in a long time. So what your telling me is that if I were to win a world championship and put my dad as a owner then he could enter at any time?

Kenny I just want everyone to play by the same rules. Seeing how you are a expert on owner points how long do they last?

Ken Miele · 02-18-2016, 11:43 AM

Yes, your dad would be able to enter, but not you. Either the driver or the owner can enter, not both. The rule has been like that for as long as I can remember. He is a Champion, so it last forever.

I think its fine, the owner pays the bills just like you and me.

Charley Downing · 02-18-2016, 12:03 PM

So Kenny what happens when the driver and owner both part ways. And they both want to enter the same race.

Ken Miele · 02-18-2016, 12:20 PM

They have to work it out, only one can enter.

Charley Downing · 02-18-2016, 12:53 PM

I was told owner points were only good for one year. The reason for this was if there was a driver change from one year to the next then teams would not be affected. I fail to see how being a owner of a world championship pro stock team over 5 years ago give you a free pass over other racers that actually run the class and follow the rules.

And Kenny Vic is not a champion his driver was

Ken Miele · 02-18-2016, 01:23 PM

Charley,

I'm just telling you what the rule is as I know it. If this is such an issue with you, contact NHRA. You wondered why he got in, I gave you my reason, take for what its worth.

Charley Downing · 02-18-2016, 01:26 PM

Thanks Kenny you are a big help like always.
There's no need to get worked up Kenny. A few of us just wanted to know.

02-18-2016, 10:19 AM	#11
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Gainesville Who was that? __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

02-18-2016, 10:57 AM	#13
4543 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 638 Likes: 58 Liked 634 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Gainesville Charlie, Went to my first NHRA points race in 1974. Ran Super Stock for about 6 years in Div 4. Quit for a few years then built Stock Eliminator car that we still race today now in Div 2. Over the years I probably averaged 4 National events and 4-5 points races each year. I was scheduled to run two more points races(Bowling Green & Reynolds) last year but ended up at home because of a family emergency. Last year it there were openings in Gainesville & Indy that you could have entered with two grade points. Guess I was just surprised that it took so many to get in this year. I'm happy for the people who got in but just think that maybe the quota system needs a little revamping. Good luck to everyone at Gainesville. Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

02-18-2016, 10:58 AM	#14
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Gainesville Kenny that's the biggest line of ***** I have heard in a long time. So what your telling me is that if I were to win a world championship and put my dad as a owner then he could enter at any time? Kenny I just want everyone to play by the same rules. Seeing how you are a expert on owner points how long do they last? __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 02-18-2016 at 11:20 AM.

02-18-2016, 11:43 AM	#15
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,553 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: Gainesville Yes, your dad would be able to enter, but not you. Either the driver or the owner can enter, not both. The rule has been like that for as long as I can remember. He is a Champion, so it last forever. I think its fine, the owner pays the bills just like you and me.

02-18-2016, 12:03 PM	#16
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Gainesville So Kenny what happens when the driver and owner both part ways. And they both want to enter the same race. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

02-18-2016, 12:20 PM	#17
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,553 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: Gainesville They have to work it out, only one can enter.

02-18-2016, 12:53 PM	#18
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Gainesville I was told owner points were only good for one year. The reason for this was if there was a driver change from one year to the next then teams would not be affected. I fail to see how being a owner of a world championship pro stock team over 5 years ago give you a free pass over other racers that actually run the class and follow the rules. And Kenny Vic is not a champion his driver was __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK

02-18-2016, 01:23 PM	#19
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,553 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: Gainesville Charley, I'm just telling you what the rule is as I know it. If this is such an issue with you, contact NHRA. You wondered why he got in, I gave you my reason, take for what its worth.

02-18-2016, 01:26 PM	#20
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Gainesville Thanks Kenny you are a big help like always. There's no need to get worked up Kenny. A few of us just wanted to know. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK