Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer .... - Page 2

Mike Pearson · 06-12-2017, 09:11 AM

Limit over the line burn outs in SC, top dragster and top sportsman to one dragster length beyond the starting line. Make it like 25 ft past the line. If they cross that line then they are eliminated or they don't get a time for they run. The door car classes can not burn past the starting line. Also no touching the car once the burnout has started. The wheelie bar adjusting is out of control. The driver should be able to start his computer from the drivers compartment. The cars should be sealed enough so that the crew does not have to fan the doors for the driver to be able to see. All of these antics take precious time
As far as reporting to the lanes. There needs to be a time limit. If you or your car are not in the lanes when the first pair in your class runs then you are eliminated. With the exception that you notify the rear of the lanes that you are thrashing to make the round. People running 2 classes need to make sure they coordinate their run time so they can be in the lanes as needed or have a crew member weigh and fuel check the car they ran first.

James Perrone · 06-12-2017, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RobbieRacer

Allow Deep staging and use a .5 pro tree for everyone.It would make things interesting for sure.

stick to bracket racing DEEP STAGING IS A CRUTCH .
Learn how to race the right way 2 stage bulb on Dream on
I like the way it is GO DEEP GO HOME red light
Adjust the rules for a few blah blah

Bob Don · 06-12-2017, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

Limit over the line burn outs in SC, top dragster and top sportsman to one dragster length beyond the starting line. Make it like 25 ft past the line. If they cross that line then they are eliminated or they don't get a time for they run. The door car classes can not burn past the starting line. Also no touching the car once the burnout has started. The wheelie bar adjusting is out of control. The driver should be able to start his computer from the drivers compartment. The cars should be sealed enough so that the crew does not have to fan the doors for the driver to be able to see. All of these antics take precious time
As far as reporting to the lanes. There needs to be a time limit. If you or your car are not in the lanes when the first pair in your class runs then you are eliminated. With the exception that you notify the rear of the lanes that you are thrashing to make the round. People running 2 classes need to make sure they coordinate their run time so they can be in the lanes as needed or have a crew member weigh and fuel check the car they ran first.

Good stuff, Mike. On burnouts, though, I would just make it no burnouts over the starting line - period.

RobbieRacer · 06-12-2017, 09:56 AM

I don't deep stage. Other people like to. It's only an option. Geez
be a little more open minded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone

stick to bracket racing DEEP STAGING IS A CRUTCH .
Learn how to race the right way 2 stage bulb on Dream on
I like the way it is GO DEEP GO HOME red light
Adjust the rules for a few blah blah

Bobby DiDomenico · 06-12-2017, 10:03 AM

We have many candidates here for biggest time waster in drag racing.

Must admit adjusting the wheelie bars and fanning the doors rank high amongst non racing friends. (They wonder why they just don't back up with the door open:-) Don't even get them started on bus loads of starting line standing folks for funny cars and dragsters.

The biggest time waster in baseball is easily stopping the game for TV commercials!!!

Jeff Stout · 06-12-2017, 10:06 AM

I was race director at the old Speedworld in AZ. We had a 3 day Jr dragster event that all employees regretted doing because of it being dragged out way to long. On Friday I watched and put rounds on a stop watch and 1 pair of cars were taking 1 minute and 20 seconds to start to finish. It really was ridiculous. On Saturday we had a driver/parent meeting. I described what was going on with each pair which was the pair in the water box was watching the entire race before them before starting their cars in water box. I asked for a vote in which the pair in front of them pre-staged then the cars in the water box had to start engines. The vote won by majority. Now through out the day I would run the rounds on a clock and we were down to 50 seconds start to finish per pair. It was a total success and made the race get over in time and nobody was in a rush and safety was not compromised. I guess what I'm saying is if change needs to happen to speed up program then let the race director know or sanctioning body know. It can improve if wanted.

Michael Beard · 06-12-2017, 11:07 AM

"Deep Staging" is the name of John D's column in the magazine. It has nothing to do with the content of the editorial, which is time management.

At Loose Rocker Promotions, we pride ourselves on time management. The two biggest factors are 1) having cars in the lanes and 2) time between the burnout box and the starting line. We have finished a race with 416 entries, 1 time trial, 1 round of re-entry style buybacks in just over 14 hours, including having dragsters, double-entries, late-round cooldown, talking splits, and any breakage, track prep, or other downtime, etc.

Big props to Jeff Stout! That's how you do it!

MR DERBY CITY · 06-12-2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico

We have many candidates here for biggest time waster in drag racing.

Must admit adjusting the wheelie bars and fanning the doors rank high amongst non racing friends. (They wonder why they just don't back up with the door open:-) Don't even get them started on bus loads of starting line standing folks for funny cars and dragsters.

The biggest time waster in baseball is easily stopping the game for TV commercials!!!

Actually , the biggest time waster is stepping out of the box to adjust batting gloves and /or jock....LOL.

Bobby DiDomenico · 06-12-2017, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Actually , the biggest time waster is stepping out of the box to adjust batting gloves and /or jock....LOL.

If they ever ban spitting and crotch grabbing half the players may have to quit!

Always liked the intentional walk where the pitcher slips up and either throws it over the plate and an alert batter pounds it or he wild pitches and tosses into the stands.

Mentioned earlier about drivers starting the computer recording, is it that difficult to have the driver to it rather than a crew member touch the car?

Jeff Stout · 06-12-2017, 03:17 PM

I'm pretty much by myself when I go racing and I have the computer switch next to shifter. Prestage and hit switch and system is set on dtiveshaft rotation before starting record. It's easy.

06-12-2017, 09:11 AM	#11
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,470 Likes: 629 Liked 1,977 Times in 597 Posts	Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer .... Limit over the line burn outs in SC, top dragster and top sportsman to one dragster length beyond the starting line. Make it like 25 ft past the line. If they cross that line then they are eliminated or they don't get a time for they run. The door car classes can not burn past the starting line. Also no touching the car once the burnout has started. The wheelie bar adjusting is out of control. The driver should be able to start his computer from the drivers compartment. The cars should be sealed enough so that the crew does not have to fan the doors for the driver to be able to see. All of these antics take precious time As far as reporting to the lanes. There needs to be a time limit. If you or your car are not in the lanes when the first pair in your class runs then you are eliminated. With the exception that you notify the rear of the lanes that you are thrashing to make the round. People running 2 classes need to make sure they coordinate their run time so they can be in the lanes as needed or have a crew member weigh and fuel check the car they ran first. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

06-12-2017, 10:03 AM	#15
Bobby DiDomenico Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 924 Likes: 106 Liked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer .... We have many candidates here for biggest time waster in drag racing. Must admit adjusting the wheelie bars and fanning the doors rank high amongst non racing friends. (They wonder why they just don't back up with the door open:-) Don't even get them started on bus loads of starting line standing folks for funny cars and dragsters. The biggest time waster in baseball is easily stopping the game for TV commercials!!!

06-12-2017, 10:06 AM	#16
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,491 Likes: 66 Liked 708 Times in 285 Posts	Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer .... I was race director at the old Speedworld in AZ. We had a 3 day Jr dragster event that all employees regretted doing because of it being dragged out way to long. On Friday I watched and put rounds on a stop watch and 1 pair of cars were taking 1 minute and 20 seconds to start to finish. It really was ridiculous. On Saturday we had a driver/parent meeting. I described what was going on with each pair which was the pair in the water box was watching the entire race before them before starting their cars in water box. I asked for a vote in which the pair in front of them pre-staged then the cars in the water box had to start engines. The vote won by majority. Now through out the day I would run the rounds on a clock and we were down to 50 seconds start to finish per pair. It was a total success and made the race get over in time and nobody was in a rush and safety was not compromised. I guess what I'm saying is if change needs to happen to speed up program then let the race director know or sanctioning body know. It can improve if wanted.

06-12-2017, 11:07 AM	#17
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer .... "Deep Staging" is the name of John D's column in the magazine. It has nothing to do with the content of the editorial, which is time management. At Loose Rocker Promotions, we pride ourselves on time management. The two biggest factors are 1) having cars in the lanes and 2) time between the burnout box and the starting line. We have finished a race with 416 entries, 1 time trial, 1 round of re-entry style buybacks in just over 14 hours, including having dragsters, double-entries, late-round cooldown, talking splits, and any breakage, track prep, or other downtime, etc. Big props to Jeff Stout! That's how you do it! __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

06-12-2017, 03:17 PM	#20
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,491 Likes: 66 Liked 708 Times in 285 Posts	Re: Interesting Commentary - why does it takes longer .... I'm pretty much by myself when I go racing and I have the computer switch next to shifter. Prestage and hit switch and system is set on dtiveshaft rotation before starting record. It's easy.