Factory Stock Showdown expands to seven events in 2018 - Page 2

Kevin McKenna · 10-01-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda

I like it!

Since they are now in their own eliminator, I would like to see them get a little more tire.

Is there larger size that would fit all the cars with out modification?

I don't enjoy tire smoking runs any better in FSS than I do Top Fuel.

However if the stocker tire is all that will fit all of them, I think that is the way it should stay.

Bill

Respectively disagree. The nine-inch tire is key to the popularity and long-term success of the class. Being able to effectively manage all that power will help prevent an all-out "arms race" where the most powerful cars always win. You're going to have to be a tuner and a driver to make it in Factory Stock.

And yes, the show in St. Louis has so far been amazing.

goldformula · 10-01-2017, 04:35 PM

Quick question if I enter the factory stock showdown and say there is only 20 cars does that mean there would only be 4 in the class they would drop into?

Is this only for the factory stock showdown events?

Will the FS cars still run stock in the non showdown events or will there be a class mixing all FS cars blown and NA?

Mike Delahanty · 10-01-2017, 06:07 PM

Kevin, I agree.

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Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna

Respectively disagree. The nine-inch tire is key to the popularity and long-term success of the class. Being able to effectively manage all that power will help prevent an all-out "arms race" where the most powerful cars always win. You're going to have to be a tuner and a driver to make it in Factory Stock.

And yes, the show in St. Louis has so far been amazing.

D.Johns · 10-01-2017, 08:43 PM

I'm glad that it keeps gaining traction.(no pun intended) So far it's all positive. I will be able to race at 4 of the 7 events this year.

Since we won't go back into Stock it would be nice to see a couple changes. Biggest one would be allow older cars(08-14 to 16-17spec) to run newer engine combos if keeping to factory specifications. Cheaper to upgrade an engine to new specs then build a whole new car. *When running regular stock the regular stock Eliminator rules remain.

I'd keep it tire limited but limit it to a 10.5 tire because so many other classes outside of the NHRA is limited to that size.

Larry Hill · 10-01-2017, 08:51 PM

10.5" tire = Super Stock. New engine in old car = Super Stock. Just try running "Showdown" under 2018 rules before making any changes. Just my thoughts.

10-01-2017, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna

Respectively disagree. The nine-inch tire is key to the popularity and long-term success of the class. Being able to effectively manage all that power will help prevent an all-out "arms race" where the most powerful cars always win. You're going to have to be a tuner and a driver to make it in Factory Stock.

And yes, the show in St. Louis has so far been amazing.

Great Post!! Dead on!

D.Johns · 10-01-2017, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

10.5" tire = Super Stock. New engine in old car = Super Stock. Just try running "Showdown" under 2018 rules before making any changes. Just my thoughts.

Factory Stock Showdown rules = Factory Stock Showdown.

It will hopefully grow and evolve just like anything that can stay relevant. As some changes are a good thing.

By all means do not issue a bunch of rule changes. Classes that get constant rule changes often tend to drive away some competitors. This is due to each rule costing money to work around or take advantage of. I would agree not to make any drastic changes for the 18 season. Just keep watering the seed and watch it grow.

Tony Curcio · 10-02-2017, 06:36 AM

How about putting the non-qualifying FS/XX cars into Comp Elimnator?
Comp can use the car count, the speeds would match and the personal index system could keep the second tier cars competitive for a while.

troublemaker427 · 10-02-2017, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin McKenna

Respectively disagree. The nine-inch tire is key to the popularity and long-term success of the class. Being able to effectively manage all that power will help prevent an all-out "arms race" where the most powerful cars always win. You're going to have to be a tuner and a driver to make it in Factory Stock.

And yes, the show in St. Louis has so far been amazing.

I agree, they must stay with the 9" tire to keep the cars interesting to the fans.

I'm also disappointed that there are no events scheduled for the northeast. Englishtown or Maple Grove would be very supportive of these cars.

Bobby DiDomenico · 10-03-2017, 08:25 AM

[QUOTE=goldformula;546568]Quick question if I enter the factory stock showdown and say there is only 20 cars does that mean there would only be 4 in the class they would drop into? QUOTE]

I'd guess somewhere along the way it has to become like IHRA Top Stock, where Factory Stock entries who do not qualify for that eliminator go home.

10-01-2017, 04:35 PM	#12
goldformula Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 6 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown expands to seven events in 2018 Quick question if I enter the factory stock showdown and say there is only 20 cars does that mean there would only be 4 in the class they would drop into? Is this only for the factory stock showdown events? Will the FS cars still run stock in the non showdown events or will there be a class mixing all FS cars blown and NA?

10-01-2017, 08:43 PM	#14
D.Johns Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 437 Likes: 15 Liked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown expands to seven events in 2018 I'm glad that it keeps gaining traction.(no pun intended) So far it's all positive. I will be able to race at 4 of the 7 events this year. Since we won't go back into Stock it would be nice to see a couple changes. Biggest one would be allow older cars(08-14 to 16-17spec) to run newer engine combos if keeping to factory specifications. Cheaper to upgrade an engine to new specs then build a whole new car. *When running regular stock the regular stock Eliminator rules remain. I'd keep it tire limited but limit it to a 10.5 tire because so many other classes outside of the NHRA is limited to that size. __________________ 2014 Cobra Jet FS/XX #3345 STK/SS Like us on http://www.facebook.com/pages/Daniel...25886327426822

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10-02-2017, 06:36 AM	#18
Tony Curcio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 271 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Factory Stock Showdown expands to seven events in 2018 How about putting the non-qualifying FS/XX cars into Comp Elimnator? Comp can use the car count, the speeds would match and the personal index system could keep the second tier cars competitive for a while. __________________ Tony Curcio 1860 STK

10-03-2017, 08:25 AM	#20
Bobby DiDomenico Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 924 Likes: 102 Liked 101 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown expands to seven events in 2018 [QUOTE=goldformula;546568]Quick question if I enter the factory stock showdown and say there is only 20 cars does that mean there would only be 4 in the class they would drop into? QUOTE] I'd guess somewhere along the way it has to become like IHRA Top Stock, where Factory Stock entries who do not qualify for that eliminator go home.