A Cheating Bunch - Page 2

Frank Castros · 02-18-2021, 10:16 AM

I still have the one I built for my son somewhere is the garage. It has all the tricks and won first place. I don't recall whether they weighed the cars but I doubt it because it's filled with lead.

Doug Hoven · 02-18-2021, 11:28 AM

A picture of all my pinewood derby cars I have lined up on the track.

CMcAllister · 02-18-2021, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith 944

I like what Eric did!
What are people teaching their kids by cheating?

Without going off track... winning. Winning being the only thing that matters. Any means to an end.

Cheat, steal, ignore rules, fairness is for suckers - just win.

Mike Pearson · 02-18-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CMcAllister

Without going off track... winning. Winning being the only thing that matters. Any means to an end.

Cheat, steal, ignore rules, fairness is for suckers - just win.

Personally I wont cheat to win. Just not worth it to me. It would be a hollow win. One of my most memorable wins was at an IHRA race in Immokalee Fl. Final round and Anthony Bertozzi in the other lane. Nothing better than winning the final over a great racer like Anthony.

Cbrinson47 · 02-18-2021, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by john kissel

there was something i read a while ago about the "soap box derby" cars. The cars are held up at :start of the ramp by a metal plate. Someone figured out where to mount a magnet so that when the plate dropped down, the magnet would help give a good hole shot and win.

sounds like stock elim racers !

Mike Taylor 3601 · 02-20-2021, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ok stocker

Went my son was in Boy Scouts they had the derby cars built from kits. They stressed the weight had to meet. We showed up with a car that met weight and all the rules. The more experienced adults knew they were not actually going to weigh the cars. We came in last place. Lol
I picked up one of my sons friends cars. I bet it weighed 10 lbs. That’s when I learned a valuable lesson.

KY seems to be ahead in some areas of country.. We have always had to show ID to vote even though half the people there working had/have knew me my whole life..still had to show ID..
When I was in Cub Scouts which has been 45 years ago now....I won our Pinewood Derby.or should I say my Dad did LOL ...Dad had weighed at the grocery store then had screw in weights if needed adjusting at the race.... our cars were weighed before the races then set directly on the track for that round..

1347 · 02-20-2021, 09:02 PM

For those who were involved with Cub Scouts, you know its a parent/scout project. For the most part, the parent ( usually some over competitive father) spends hours prepping axles and wheels and puts the weight in just the right spot.

A good friend of mine who works for Penske racing was involved with his son in a scout troop that almost every father was involved with a NASCAR team. They ended up instituting an “impound “ policy after weigh in because the cars would be reengineered between weigh in and the race. He told me there is nothing more competitive than 20+ nascar dads trying to win a pinewood derby race. Lol

Just to add, all 5 of the cars Doug posted a pic of won fastest in rank, and top 3 overall in troop in all5 years we raced. :-)

Chip THELEGEND Johnson · 02-20-2021, 11:48 PM

My dad took my Pinewood Derby car away from and said let me do it if you want to win. Well the wheels fell off halfway down the track and Mom laughed all the way home

Andy Friar · 02-21-2021, 08:09 AM

I helped my stepdaughter do pinewood derby when she was 6. We followed the rules to a T and I did the tricks I found online, with some success. We would have been better setup for a downhill oval race with the screwed up stagger I put in it, but I digress. She is very artistic and painted it all up and it had more glitter and sparkles on it that a Hess car! (j/k as those guys car are super cool looking!) We had to weigh in at registration and then wait our turns to race while watching the other races. The Mom next to us was dismantling her kids car and stuffed a ton of lead into it, then put back together like it didn't happen. My little Ruby looked at me, and said, "That lady is cheating." Made for a good teaching moment that some people don't follow the rules and you can't do anything about it. She was happy with her car and it finished mid pack I think. She got a medal for an appearance category and a participation medal, we had a fun day, and one medal hangs by computer as a good memory.

02-18-2021, 10:16 AM	#11
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,954 Likes: 2,536 Liked 2,610 Times in 948 Posts	Re: A Cheating Bunch I still have the one I built for my son somewhere is the garage. It has all the tricks and won first place. I don't recall whether they weighed the cars but I doubt it because it's filled with lead.

02-18-2021, 11:28 AM	#12
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 210 Likes: 189 Liked 813 Times in 162 Posts	Re: A Cheating Bunch A picture of all my pinewood derby cars I have lined up on the track. Attached Thumbnails

02-20-2021, 09:02 PM	#17
1347 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe Twp NJ Posts: 497 Likes: 1,024 Liked 987 Times in 271 Posts	Re: A Cheating Bunch For those who were involved with Cub Scouts, you know its a parent/scout project. For the most part, the parent ( usually some over competitive father) spends hours prepping axles and wheels and puts the weight in just the right spot. A good friend of mine who works for Penske racing was involved with his son in a scout troop that almost every father was involved with a NASCAR team. They ended up instituting an “impound “ policy after weigh in because the cars would be reengineered between weigh in and the race. He told me there is nothing more competitive than 20+ nascar dads trying to win a pinewood derby race. Lol Just to add, all 5 of the cars Doug posted a pic of won fastest in rank, and top 3 overall in troop in all5 years we raced. :-) __________________ Duane Hoven 1342 SS/GT Last edited by 1347; 02-20-2021 at 09:05 PM.

02-20-2021, 11:48 PM	#18
Chip THELEGEND Johnson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 284 Likes: 223 Liked 281 Times in 79 Posts	Re: A Cheating Bunch My dad took my Pinewood Derby car away from and said let me do it if you want to win. Well the wheels fell off halfway down the track and Mom laughed all the way home

02-21-2021, 08:09 AM	#19
Andy Friar Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Howell, MI Posts: 250 Likes: 698 Liked 226 Times in 76 Posts	Re: A Cheating Bunch I helped my stepdaughter do pinewood derby when she was 6. We followed the rules to a T and I did the tricks I found online, with some success. We would have been better setup for a downhill oval race with the screwed up stagger I put in it, but I digress. She is very artistic and painted it all up and it had more glitter and sparkles on it that a Hess car! (j/k as those guys car are super cool looking!) We had to weigh in at registration and then wait our turns to race while watching the other races. The Mom next to us was dismantling her kids car and stuffed a ton of lead into it, then put back together like it didn't happen. My little Ruby looked at me, and said, "That lady is cheating." Made for a good teaching moment that some people don't follow the rules and you can't do anything about it. She was happy with her car and it finished mid pack I think. She got a medal for an appearance category and a participation medal, we had a fun day, and one medal hangs by computer as a good memory. __________________ Andy Friar