New - Lots of Questions. Help me understand S&SS

[4406mopar]

Your car is mini tubbed so stock eliminator is out.

Very familiar with BB mopar bracket engines is great, but doesn't mean much for stock or SS racing.
Different as night and day.

There are many good running cars on the west coast in all classes A-H, and a few notables in I-M so you won't go very far with a slow car.

SS is just cubic dollars to run far under. Lots of RPM.

What do you get for setting a national record? About 9 horsepower. LOL

Or stay with bracket racing, money ahead.

Sounds negative, but trying to be realistic.

I didn't even get to the entry fees going up and purses not following, and contingencies going away or no payment. Then the amount of time off work needed to attend races.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by 4406mopar

Your car is mini tubbed so stock eliminator is out.

Very familiar with BB mopar bracket engines is great, but doesn't mean much for stock or SS racing. Different as night and day.

There are many good running cars on the west coast in all classes A-H, and a few notables in I-M so you won't go very far with a slow car.

SS is just cubic dollars to run far under. Lots of RPM.

What do you get for setting a national record? About 9 horsepower. LOL

Or stay with bracket racing, money ahead.

Sounds negative, but trying to be realistic.
Didn't even get to the entry fees going up and purses not following, and contingencies going away or no payment.

quoted for the the TRUTH and the FACTS! Bravo

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

quoted for the the TRUTH and the FACTS! Bravo

Again, your opinion is irrelevant until you have the ballz to SHOW UP......

[1320racer]

Again, not my opinion, rather 4406mopar's opinion.

Stop being a hater!

[LemonWedge]

Originally Posted by ken robinson

The class combo is like a heads up , it's how far under your index you can run and your reaction time . The tree start will handy cap off the index split of the 2 cars ( just like a bracket race slower leaves first ) . Do you have a copy of nitro joe's ? In Div 1 there are a few BB mopars that run very well. If your car has bin tubed for big tires super stock is your best option. And 8 under isn't a bad please to start .

Is it off the index split, or a dial-in on the car?

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by LemonWedge

Is it off the index split, or a dial-in on the car?

Index

[LemonWedge]

Originally Posted by 4406mopar

Your car is mini tubbed so stock eliminator is out.

Very familiar with BB mopar bracket engines is great, but doesn't mean much for stock or SS racing.
Different as night and day.

There are many good running cars on the west coast in all classes A-H, and a few notables in I-M so you won't go very far with a slow car.

SS is just cubic dollars to run far under. Lots of RPM.

What do you get for setting a national record? About 9 horsepower. LOL

Or stay with bracket racing, money ahead.

Sounds negative, but trying to be realistic.

I didn't even get to the entry fees going up and purses not following, and contingencies going away or no payment. Then the amount of time off work needed to attend races.

This sounds like the truth. I do NOT have cubic dollars. Bracket racing is fun. But like most car guys, I?m constantly looking for the next thing. Lots of good suggestions here.
So if I?m looking at this correctly, a 1967 Satellite had a shipping weight of 3534. The 383 four barrel, advertised at 325, is factored at 290 with stock 516 heads. This means the weight break number is 12.18, which slots the combo into SS/K, which is an index of 11.25. To be competitive at all, I’d have to have that combo solidly into the 10?s. That seems crazy to me. With stock heads and a 625 cfm AFB.

Also, Am I correct that under the GT class, you can run an engine combination from another year, such as a 440 six barrel setup in a 1967 chassis??

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by LemonWedge

This sounds like the truth. I do NOT have cubic dollars. Bracket racing is fun.

Then forget this foolishness.

But like most car guys, I?m constantly looking for the next thing.

Until you've won multiple big $ gambler races like the Flings and the Million, "the next thing" is still waiting for you to accomplish and even then, the best racers in the country are still out their every weekend bracket racing NOT class racing, including the guy that has won the biggest payday in ALL of drag racing.

[james schaechter]

First of all. Welcome to the classracer forum! It is always great to have other racers see stock/superstock and consider taking the plunge! The more the merrier!

This forum has a lot of folks that have been in your shoes and chose to jump in and race stock or superstock so this is a great first step. I would add to the suggestions from those that have class racing experience here. My brother and I bought a 69 Camaro bracket car once and converted it to a SSBS car. Everything in that car was used except the gas and oil! It was a fun car and it took quite a lot of work to reach the index and finally to run under, but we had fun and learned it by taking that journey.

I would research the car to ensure it can fit a category or can be modified to fit on a reasonable fashion first.
Then consider the best fit for a drivetrain that you are interested in and will fit your plans for expenses.
Keep in mind, very few people shoot for the class winner or record setting combo at first.

It is more about at least being able to run the index.

The path you choose as what’s next is entirely up to you of course, not anyone else.

If you can connect with a person or persons at a points meet near you, that would be helpful. Most that run stock super stock can provide a lot of context to the written word of the rule book.

One thing to consider also is FGT. That class would allow an older style car like yours to run different and more modern combinations. There is a real good 360 Mopar engine combo that fits and would not break the bank.

The 383 sounds pretty cool, but I don?t know how reasonable it is to build from a cost standpoint.
I do know that building an index player is going to be many thousands less $$$ than a max effort.

For me, I have always enjoyed working on my cars to make them quicker and faster. Basically more efficient compared to others in my class.

It isn?t for everyone, but I would encourage you to do some research and meet some of the racers in person and see the cars up close. People are very willing to show off their cars.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

First of all. Welcome to the classracer forum! People are very willing to show off there cars.

First of all, your welcome to him is about 8 years too late but you nor most here cared about his posts then and only reply now because he’s asking about stock eliminator which is car is not legal for.

Second, most won’t tell him honestly how much money it cost to build their can no mind how much it cost per year to maintain and those that are actually winning races and championships also won’t state the truth as to how much time, effort and money it cost them to be at the top of the game no mind how long it took them to get there.