A case for Tru-Start

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by 4406mopar

Kyle and Peter came up with it, they need not show a resume to justify anything.

This is kinda what I'm thinkin'.
If it happens or it doesn't, it won't change what, where or when I race.

[Larry Hill]

Wow full contact keyboards, this is WAY better than full contact golf.

"never argue with a fool, some people can't tell the difference"

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Wow full contact keyboards, this is WAY better than full contact golf.

"never argue with a fool, some people can't tell the difference"

Everybody is a fool and everybody is a genius just depends on what you want but the short bus does run every week for the fools

[Ron Ortiz]

And now comes the opinion of a slow car driver's view of this situation.

First of all I see that I should have some sort of credibility to enter into this fray.
I have never won a national event. I have several class wins, most against some guy named Bye. I have one Indy class win as the number 96 qualifier in a 96 car field. I have stayed at a Holiday Inn. I am usually in the first three pair at 8:00 AM looking into the sun. I know the weather better than most of the people in the lanes. I've been a tech guy and have raced since 1968. I have been racing Stock in U/SA since 1988. I can run the 100 yard dash in over 16 seconds. I hope this satisfies you all as far as credibility.

I leave first just about all the time. I have left second only twice since 1988. Other than those two times I have always had a clean tree. I usually can tell if it is a good, average or bad light when I leave. If I go red, I usually hit the steering wheel and say something like damn it. Then I continue down the track, wide open to see what I will run, knowing that it will be dead on due to the red light. If my opponent goes red, it just frustrates me just a little bit, but I know that they were just taking a free shot at the tree as they already have won.

If I go green, along with my usually huge head start, it put way more pressure on who I am racing. I know that they say they pay attention to their side of the tree, being totally focused, but they still see me leave through peripheral vision and know if it was a good light or not, but they know it is green which is a lot of pressure. They also see how far out I am when the tree comes down on their side which adds more pressure. If they go red it is usually ridiculous red, like their foot took control of their brain.

For me it doesn't really matter if they implement the rule. I will always have my advantages in place. Like Billy said, what, where or when. But some of you all on here need to calm down a little bit. Your letting thing get out of control like people did in this recent election.

I can only see this rule being really effective in close races where dial ins are within a tree span. In my situation with a clean tree, if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA P R E S S U R E

[HandOverFist]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

And now comes the opinion of a slow car driver's view of this situation.

First of all I see that I should have some sort of credibility to enter into this fray.
I have never won a national event. I have several class wins, most against some guy named Bye. I have one Indy class win as the number 96 qualifier in a 96 car field. I have stayed at a Holiday Inn. I am usually in the first three pair at 8:00 AM looking into the sun. I know the weather better than most of the people in the lanes. I've been a tech guy and have raced since 1968. I have been racing Stock in U/SA since 1988. I can run the 100 yard dash in over 16 seconds. I hope this satisfies you all as far as credibility.

I leave first just about all the time. I have left second only twice since 1988. Other than those two times I have always had a clean tree. I usually can tell if it is a good, average or bad light when I leave. If I go red, I usually hit the steering wheel and say something like damn it. Then I continue down the track, wide open to see what I will run, knowing that it will be dead on due to the red light. If my opponent goes red, it just frustrates me just a little bit, but I know that they were just taking a free shot at the tree as they already have won.

If I go green, along with my usually huge head start, it put way more pressure on who I am racing. I know that they say they pay attention to their side of the tree, being totally focused, but they still see me leave through peripheral vision and know if it was a good light or not, but they know it is green which is a lot of pressure. They also see how far out I am when the tree comes down on their side which adds more pressure. If they go red it is usually ridiculous red, like their foot took control of their brain.

For me it doesn't really matter if they implement the rule. I will always have my advantages in place. Like Billy said, what, where or when. But some of you all on here need to calm down a little bit. Your letting thing get out of control like people did in this recent election.

I can only see this rule being really effective in close races where dial ins are within a tree span. In my situation with a clean tree, if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA P R E S S U R E

If I understand correctly Ron neither of you would know if you went red until both had left.

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

And now comes the opinion of a slow car driver's view of this situation.

First of all I see that I should have some sort of credibility to enter into this fray.
I have never won a national event. I have several class wins, most against some guy named Bye. I have one Indy class win as the number 96 qualifier in a 96 car field. I have stayed at a Holiday Inn. I am usually in the first three pair at 8:00 AM looking into the sun. I know the weather better than most of the people in the lanes. I've been a tech guy and have raced since 1968. I have been racing Stock in U/SA since 1988. I can run the 100 yard dash in over 16 seconds. I hope this satisfies you all as far as credibility.

I leave first just about all the time. I have left second only twice since 1988. Other than those two times I have always had a clean tree. I usually can tell if it is a good, average or bad light when I leave. If I go red, I usually hit the steering wheel and say something like damn it. Then I continue down the track, wide open to see what I will run, knowing that it will be dead on due to the red light. If my opponent goes red, it just frustrates me just a little bit, but I know that they were just taking a free shot at the tree as they already have won.

If I go green, along with my usually huge head start, it put way more pressure on who I am racing. I know that they say they pay attention to their side of the tree, being totally focused, but they still see me leave through peripheral vision and know if it was a good light or not, but they know it is green which is a lot of pressure. They also see how far out I am when the tree comes down on their side which adds more pressure. If they go red it is usually ridiculous red, like their foot took control of their brain.

For me it doesn't really matter if they implement the rule. I will always have my advantages in place. Like Billy said, what, where or when. But some of you all on here need to calm down a little bit. Your letting thing get out of control like people did in this recent election.

I can only see this rule being really effective in close races where dial ins are within a tree span. In my situation with a clean tree, if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA P R E S S U R E

Damn ron why did you wait since 1968 that beef jerkey is good

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Mickey, cut these dopes loose! Most of them aren't racers so don't waste your time.

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[Bunkster]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

"...just taking a free shot at the tree..."

"...if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking...".

Ron Ortiz
U/SA P R E S S U R E

“… just taking a free shot at the tree…”

No one should ever have a free shot at the tree. Everyone should always have to take a shot at the tree and be exposed to foul starting. (Of course, except for a bye-single run. Go ahead and foul start all you wish.)

“…if you go red after I go red, what the heck were you thinking.”

That only applied if they knew you fouled BEFORE they left. Now, with this corrected system, they will NOT know you fouled, until AFTER they left. Their light will finally be an honest light.

(Stated with great respect for anyone with knowledge of a Stromberg product.)

[Ron Ortiz]

Bunkster, I kind of know how it works and understand that it would be in my favor in those situations. Only drawback I see is now after I leave, I have to wait about 2-6 seconds to find out if I didn't go red. I usually like to watch my opponent in the rear view mirror to see if they go red and to watch the cool wheel stands when they leave, now this is going to interfere with my entertainment thought process. So, basically, now I have more anxiety to endure while launching and having to wait to see if I did good or not, instead of trying to recognize fans in the stands or checking my e-mails.

Appreciate the Stromberg comment, only thing is, that the only thing I know about them is that they are about a tenth faster than my Ball &Ball carb. Wish I could use one, but NHRA says no, but it is OK for me to get factored when they do. Now that I think about it, yes, I am in favor of Tru-Start.

And as soon as the no tech rule goes into effect, I'll install that NO2 system to keep up with them FFFFords.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA they're taking all the fun out.

[Ed Wright]

A friend told me about the new "tech yourself" system. Think that is for real? Are they doing away with heads-ups as well?