ET with and without wheelie.

[JGrossijr]

It's worth noting that 60' beam placement is normally about 10" above track. In this position it's not only the front or rear tire that can trip the beam. Depending on how the car leaves it may not even be the same location on the tire tripping it every time.

[Doug Hoven]

I'm having a very hard time understanding this 60ft change to ET change thing. Now, if you were to tell me that your car slows down in ET with a big wheelie, then yes, I would agree that you are going to have a slower 60ft by tripping the beam with a different part of the car, and you'll have a slower ET because that's how the car acts. However, to say that the 60ft clock itself has an effect on the ET, that is what I can't figure out. Bear with me, I am just a "kid," but the timer is activated once the starting line beams are broken, and as each photocell down track is "tripped," the corresponding time from the start is recorded. And the MPH works by finding the velocity given the time to travel between the speed trap and the corresponding ET trap. If a car were not to slow any ET by tripping the 60ft clock with either the front or ear tire, the 330 time should be the same. What will change is the 60ft - 330ft interval. Sometimes intervals can show some interesting things.

[Jason Shepard]

Originally Posted by JGrossijr

It's worth noting that 60' beam placement is normally about 10" above track. In this position it's not only the front or rear tire that can trip the beam. Depending on how the car leaves it may not even be the same location on the tire tripping it every time.

This^^^^^
Especially on a car that sits lower in the front to begin with. Depending on where i come down from the wheelie it could be the front bumper, it could be a header collector, it could be the door. In my opinion, the 330 time is a more accurate measurment of how quick the final ET will be.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by JGrossijr

it's not only the front or rear tire that can trip the beam.

as I've stated numerous times here

Depending on how the car leaves it may not even be the same location on the tire tripping it every time.

it's not for those that don't adjust their wheelie for changing weather throughout the day as I do. My car breaks the beam exactly at the same location EVERY pass, evident by not only photos and videos but the time slip that shows a few thousands variance in 60 foot over the entire event!

That said,

how many replying here have the car that can no mind have done an A-B-A with their car on the same day, letting it fly, breaking the 60 foot beam with the back tire then tie down the front, shock extension on full tight, travel limiter set for the minimum tire drop an make a pass with no more than a few inches of day light under the front tires?

We know Stan hasn't as well most others replying here!

[TOSTO RACING]

I have, but you called me clueless . I'm not saying your car or my car is the right or wrong way just showing different sides of my real world experiences. And that every car is not the same. My timeslips prove in my situation my car does not slow down, it runs about the same et big wheelie or little wheelie . Now my car tied down is way slower to the 60' for some reason.

I have also caught something like the front bumper before or the deflector etc. from a bounce , and have had a faster 60 foot and a slower 330' just different examples 60' can change and car still run same number because where the 60 foot is catching the car like explained above.

[1320racer]

Post your A-B-A time slips from the same day where you have done what I stated. I'd also like to see a photo of your shocks and limiter

[Race Clean]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Post your A-B-A time slips from the same day where you have done what I stated. I'd also like to see a photo of your shocks and limiters.

I know your mission is to get clicks on the site for the boss but just give up on this and go to another thread.


60 foot times means nothing to a stock suspension when you do big wheelies,330 does

[1700camaro]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Post your A-B-A time slips from the same day where you have done what I stated. I'd also like to see a photo of your shocks and limiters.

I don't have nor done the A-B-A same day test. Seeing you are so passionate on the subject. Share your A-B-A time slips from the same day.

[TOSTO RACING]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Post your A-B-A time slips from the same day where you have done what I stated. I'd also like to see a photo of your shocks and limiters.

I posted my experiences earlier. And have talked about it. I honestly am done here. If I ever see you at the track you are more than welcome to look at all my data and car anytime .

[1320racer]

so you can't, no surprise. You should have been done with this thread along ago.