Z-11 CHEVY vs NEW FORD CJ - Page 3

Bruce Noland · 02-15-2009, 08:48 PM

Tim,

It would have been so simple to put these cars in a new Factory Experimental class within Stock. Brent Hajek thought they would race in their own class. A separate class was fine with him.

Also, asking what you would learn from nhra placing these cars in a separate class displays a serious flaw in your knowledge of Stock racing.

This issue is not going away until one of these motors shows up on a dyno. There will never be a meeting of the minds until FRP provides the real numbers on the 2008 CJ motor or one of the magazines dyno's it for us. No amount of obfuscation will deter the folks who believe this is wrong.

Producing legitimate power and torque numbers on this motor would be very helpful. Ford has never been this bashful before. Why not provide them and be done with this issue.

bsa633 · 02-15-2009, 09:43 PM

A couple of things...i was told all the cars was at the same weight..if so..all runs with all cars was then in A/S(A) Stinnett had 101 mph on his Q-run...still..well..these are basically "factory cars" with a cage..no real "stocker mods" done to them...and some one said they come with a couple of different pulleys too?...who knows what the real potential is? if raced smart the AHFS will never get close on these cars for as long as we can think of...just seem way off in rating to me...way more than some of the earlier example's..Great that the new Mustangs are in..but these engines are maybe a bit too much ....a separate class until evaluation would have been better..these cars can probably set new records real easy...by design!

02-15-2009, 08:48 PM	#21
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Z-11 CHEVY vs NEW FORD CJ Tim, It would have been so simple to put these cars in a new Factory Experimental class within Stock. Brent Hajek thought they would race in their own class. A separate class was fine with him. Also, asking what you would learn from nhra placing these cars in a separate class displays a serious flaw in your knowledge of Stock racing. This issue is not going away until one of these motors shows up on a dyno. There will never be a meeting of the minds until FRP provides the real numbers on the 2008 CJ motor or one of the magazines dyno's it for us. No amount of obfuscation will deter the folks who believe this is wrong. Producing legitimate power and torque numbers on this motor would be very helpful. Ford has never been this bashful before. Why not provide them and be done with this issue. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 02-15-2009 at 09:53 PM.

02-15-2009, 09:43 PM	#22
bsa633 Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 310 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Z-11 CHEVY vs NEW FORD CJ A couple of things...i was told all the cars was at the same weight..if so..all runs with all cars was then in A/S(A) Stinnett had 101 mph on his Q-run...still..well..these are basically "factory cars" with a cage..no real "stocker mods" done to them...and some one said they come with a couple of different pulleys too?...who knows what the real potential is? if raced smart the AHFS will never get close on these cars for as long as we can think of...just seem way off in rating to me...way more than some of the earlier example's..Great that the new Mustangs are in..but these engines are maybe a bit too much ....a separate class until evaluation would have been better..these cars can probably set new records real easy...by design! Last edited by bsa633; 02-15-2009 at 09:58 PM.