Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! - Page 3

Casey Miles · 09-04-2009, 08:11 AM

Back in 1981 I was at Indy, that is when my car was very competitive, it was just a couple of hundreds off the record. Well all the Mopar's with the small block combo made the field at Indy and NHRA did nothing about even to this day. I took my car apart and put it back to driving on the street because of that experience. Since that time that combo has been protected, they need more then just 7 HP, they should carry at least what my engine is, which is 19 HP from the factory rating. (1969 Z/28 Camaro) BTW, that is one reason for mufflers on the car now, it's not as much work to just roll the car off the trailer and take it for a cruise and enjoy it.
Also, the lifting at the 1000 feet is one good reason that manufactures don't want to sponcer class racing. Lifting doesn't show that their products help the performance of the vehicles that the product was targeted for even if the product does.

Casey Miles
248H

X-TECH MAN · 09-04-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyn Smith

NHRA has a class for the Hemis in SS . Maybe they should give the small block Chrysler guys their own classes in stock so they could just beat up on each other.

Hey...thats a great idea only lets not stop there. Go for the whole load and have a class for each and every combo in existence today. A/SB (A stock Buick), A/SCC (A stock chev camaro) and lets not forget the AAAAAAA/SFBM (A/S Ford Blown Mustangs).....LOL. Just kidding. Lets just get rid of the AHFS (it will NEVER work) and drop the indexes say about .5 or so and race like the old days. Put some HP on the cars that deserve it by a 2 or 3 man group ( I would do it for FREE but NHRA would never allow me near it...lol) who have no connection to anyones car or wont play favorites and add or subtract HP when needed (like NOW), run the sticks and autos together heads up and have at it. Its nothing more than a BS high dollar bracket race with some friggin' rules the way it is. Its getting to be almost as bad (no it already is) as the stop and go cars in the 90 classes. No wonder spectators and sponsors are not interested anymore.

herbjr · 09-04-2009, 10:36 AM

The thing to do is lower AHFS to 1.00 under but do it August 15th next year. This crap will sort itself out real quick.

John Warehime · 09-04-2009, 10:54 AM

My combination got 3 HP before I even had the car finished! At least you got to race your car awhile before it got hit, and the cars that got you hit will, most likely, be torn down. That is what class racing is about,...going FAST! (just not too fast) LOL

Kirk Morgan · 09-04-2009, 11:03 AM

So why did the Challanger get horse power and the Duster didnt? The NHRA rule shows the same wheel base and the same engine combo. Are the shipping weights different?

Rod Greene · 09-04-2009, 11:16 AM

I believe a certain orange Cuda without its normal driver was responsible for some of the HP. E bodies and A bodies are different cars.
David is Jerry bringing his car also?

chlngr73 · 09-04-2009, 11:19 AM

Well first and foremost I would like to apologize to anyone I offended; including, James Findell, Tim Mosbek, and Steve Wann and Mark. I realize now that I let my emotions overcome my usually good judgement. When i found out yesterday what happened i just got on here and started ranting on without thinking what i was really saying. We all do it because we are all human and make mistakes. It's the ability to stand up and admit when you were wrong, is what sets us apart. I started off saying I have been in this for 4 years which shows that I still have a lot of growing and learning to do if I plan on gaining others respect, and racing at the level I plan on achieving. I appreciate everyones feedback, which has made me realize my mistakes. I am usually a very humble person, and I am very grateful that I get to race and compete at the level that we are at today. I know most of you have never met me, but those of who have know my father and I are serious racers and most importantly have a lot of fun just being there. I have met all three racers I mentioned and each one of them are good smart racers, hell James Findell even beat me last year in Topeka, and don't get me started with Steve Wann, he's handed me a few too. Point is I didn't mean to put anyones reputation or integrity in jeopardy. The way we race our car is our decision, and we have to live with the consequences of that.

On a lighter note i would like to congratulate Paula Cotten and James Findell on their Indy class win. It takes a lot of work to get those!

And for Mr.Sledge I have told you time and time again no one can B.S quite like you can. My dad runs a close 2nd though.

Scott Loge · 09-04-2009, 11:22 AM

That 1 run at Pomona was one run of many by that car in many locations. That West Coast Car went to INDY, Las Vegas, Pheonix, Boise, Pomona,Denver. For such a bogus piece we sure hid it well. It was torn down 5 different times and was bounced 1 time because they did not like the way the Head looked. It measured to spec if you remember and it should also be noted Rod, as you know they were comparing parts to another 340 car at the same time. How many times does that happen?
This same thing happened to us at pomona years before we were 1 of 2 cars torn down and they both were 340 dusters. We showed up and they would not take parts until the others were there as well. We were not bounced that time as our competitor was for camshaft i believe.
Hartzler's car was the one that went 1.40 under and God Bless him for it as it gives all others a number to shoot for.

Curt Rees · 09-04-2009, 11:40 AM

Your last post was much better, Mr. Buckner, it takes a man to be humble and admit a mistake! You da' man!

#5457

Curt Rees

Austin Ford · 09-04-2009, 12:46 PM

This is my first post, i usually keep my mouth shut on these subjects. I know David was upset about what happened to him, but it happens to all of us. Heck it just happened to me! How would u feel if an egotistical idiot built your combo JUST TO GET IT HIT WITH HP!!!???? I dont think Findell, Mosbek, or Wann's intent was malicious. They were just doin what they had to. It's never fun to get hit with HP though. But as far as losing on purpose in class, ive shut my car off a few times to not get HP. Sometimes its better to think long-term not short-term. So i dont blame him for it. I race to win the event...not class. Its hard to win a heads up 3rd round or so if you are constantly gettin hit with HP. By the way D-Buck, you did deserve the HP. Now you'll only be #1 qualifier by a tenth!!

----And the biggest BS'r is RJ...hands down!!!

09-04-2009, 08:11 AM	#21
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 704 Likes: 128 Liked 499 Times in 91 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! Back in 1981 I was at Indy, that is when my car was very competitive, it was just a couple of hundreds off the record. Well all the Mopar's with the small block combo made the field at Indy and NHRA did nothing about even to this day. I took my car apart and put it back to driving on the street because of that experience. Since that time that combo has been protected, they need more then just 7 HP, they should carry at least what my engine is, which is 19 HP from the factory rating. (1969 Z/28 Camaro) BTW, that is one reason for mufflers on the car now, it's not as much work to just roll the car off the trailer and take it for a cruise and enjoy it. Also, the lifting at the 1000 feet is one good reason that manufactures don't want to sponcer class racing. Lifting doesn't show that their products help the performance of the vehicles that the product was targeted for even if the product does. Casey Miles 248H

09-04-2009, 10:36 AM	#23
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! The thing to do is lower AHFS to 1.00 under but do it August 15th next year. This crap will sort itself out real quick.

09-04-2009, 10:54 AM	#24
John Warehime Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 291 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! My combination got 3 HP before I even had the car finished! At least you got to race your car awhile before it got hit, and the cars that got you hit will, most likely, be torn down. That is what class racing is about,...going FAST! (just not too fast) LOL

09-04-2009, 11:03 AM	#25
Kirk Morgan Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 230 Likes: 1 Liked 80 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! So why did the Challanger get horse power and the Duster didnt? The NHRA rule shows the same wheel base and the same engine combo. Are the shipping weights different?

09-04-2009, 11:16 AM	#26
Rod Greene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TN Posts: 530 Likes: 422 Liked 242 Times in 81 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! I believe a certain orange Cuda without its normal driver was responsible for some of the HP. E bodies and A bodies are different cars. David is Jerry bringing his car also? __________________ Rod Greene Real men shift for them selves. Slowly working on TA Challenger for D,E/S and a 72 Challenger for SS/K, L as if I don't have enough other projects.

09-04-2009, 11:19 AM	#27
chlngr73 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! Well first and foremost I would like to apologize to anyone I offended; including, James Findell, Tim Mosbek, and Steve Wann and Mark. I realize now that I let my emotions overcome my usually good judgement. When i found out yesterday what happened i just got on here and started ranting on without thinking what i was really saying. We all do it because we are all human and make mistakes. It's the ability to stand up and admit when you were wrong, is what sets us apart. I started off saying I have been in this for 4 years which shows that I still have a lot of growing and learning to do if I plan on gaining others respect, and racing at the level I plan on achieving. I appreciate everyones feedback, which has made me realize my mistakes. I am usually a very humble person, and I am very grateful that I get to race and compete at the level that we are at today. I know most of you have never met me, but those of who have know my father and I are serious racers and most importantly have a lot of fun just being there. I have met all three racers I mentioned and each one of them are good smart racers, hell James Findell even beat me last year in Topeka, and don't get me started with Steve Wann, he's handed me a few too. Point is I didn't mean to put anyones reputation or integrity in jeopardy. The way we race our car is our decision, and we have to live with the consequences of that. On a lighter note i would like to congratulate Paula Cotten and James Findell on their Indy class win. It takes a lot of work to get those! And for Mr.Sledge I have told you time and time again no one can B.S quite like you can. My dad runs a close 2nd though.

09-04-2009, 11:22 AM	#28
Scott Loge Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Livermore,Ca Posts: 334 Likes: 15 Liked 145 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! That 1 run at Pomona was one run of many by that car in many locations. That West Coast Car went to INDY, Las Vegas, Pheonix, Boise, Pomona,Denver. For such a bogus piece we sure hid it well. It was torn down 5 different times and was bounced 1 time because they did not like the way the Head looked. It measured to spec if you remember and it should also be noted Rod, as you know they were comparing parts to another 340 car at the same time. How many times does that happen? This same thing happened to us at pomona years before we were 1 of 2 cars torn down and they both were 340 dusters. We showed up and they would not take parts until the others were there as well. We were not bounced that time as our competitor was for camshaft i believe. Hartzler's car was the one that went 1.40 under and God Bless him for it as it gives all others a number to shoot for.

09-04-2009, 11:40 AM	#29
Curt Rees Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ft. Pierre, SD Posts: 357 Likes: 415 Liked 250 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! Your last post was much better, Mr. Buckner, it takes a man to be humble and admit a mistake! You da' man! #5457 Curt Rees __________________ Curt Rees 5457 SS

09-04-2009, 12:46 PM	#30
Austin Ford Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp! This is my first post, i usually keep my mouth shut on these subjects. I know David was upset about what happened to him, but it happens to all of us. Heck it just happened to me! How would u feel if an egotistical idiot built your combo JUST TO GET IT HIT WITH HP!!!???? I dont think Findell, Mosbek, or Wann's intent was malicious. They were just doin what they had to. It's never fun to get hit with HP though. But as far as losing on purpose in class, ive shut my car off a few times to not get HP. Sometimes its better to think long-term not short-term. So i dont blame him for it. I race to win the event...not class. Its hard to win a heads up 3rd round or so if you are constantly gettin hit with HP. By the way D-Buck, you did deserve the HP. Now you'll only be #1 qualifier by a tenth!! ----And the biggest BS'r is RJ...hands down!!!