FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines - Page 3

Dale Shannon · 12-13-2009, 07:18 AM

Yes Ken been out of racing fora while now, but I guess what I wanted to know was will ford build any of this or will it be a MPR or back-yard built? Next question were in stock will they race, how many AAAA'S can NHRA add.

Larry Munk · 12-13-2009, 08:02 AM

The obvious question now is, Why just not allow all fuel injected crate motors?

Ken Miele · 12-13-2009, 09:15 AM

GTX John, Its not a hoax, it was announced at the PRI show.

Dale, Ford is building these cars, but does it really matter who builds them.? NHRA has approved them.

bubski · 12-13-2009, 09:17 AM

Engine specs. Proking heads for pushrod motors CNCed of course.2 sheetmetal intakes with part# written in magic marker.3 Jesel rockers.4 Jesel belt.5 titanium retainers.6 1.55 PAC springs.7 ultra light pistons half inch deep notches, .065 top ring hieght, .028 top and second ring 3mm oil ring.8 .700 solid roller cam .904 lifters.9 pendulum under cut superlite crank and titanium rods.10 vacuum pump.full lenth kickout oil pan and modified K member.11 1000 cfm throttle body.12 and of course clutchless 5 speed for all! and you thougth roller rockers in stock was an abomination. Looks like stock, superstock as we knew it is dead. Wait till these guys stop buying bigger rigs and invest in their cars instead. Lots of nice old muscle back on the street !

X-TECH MAN · 12-13-2009, 10:09 AM

And a lot of you guys cursed me for coming up with the crate motor IHRA classes......Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Its great that the auto manufacturers are becoming involved in this bad economy but these specs are a little over the top (my opinion) unless they are S/S only. At the very least the HP ratings should be more "correct" and if the combo dosent meet the 7.5 lb wt factor with a resonable HP rating they should go right into S/S. The rule of limited production cars being automaticly a S/S car and stockers being showroom avaliable to anyone seems to have been thrown out the window long ago. The new Fords along with the Dodges with the 360 combo will be interesting no doubt in the lower classes. I guess we cant stop progress.

X-TECH MAN · 12-13-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dale Shannon

Yes Ken been out of racing fora while now, but I guess what I wanted to know was will ford build any of this or will it be a MPR or back-yard built? Next question were in stock will they race, how many AAAA'S can NHRA add.

You can always put the engine in a 1963-64 Galaxie and run SS/GT or IHRA A/CM (a 6.00 lb class). The big Fords weigh around 4000 pounds.......LOL.
P.S. You have to use the old T-10 Trans when over 4000 lbs class wt. with 14X32 tires.

K Stubbs · 12-13-2009, 02:44 PM

Good, bad, ugly, however you want to look at it, I give FORD props for getting involved in stock/superstock like they are. Maybe this will encourage other makers to get involved as well and, hopefully, let our sport continue to grow.

stefan callender · 12-13-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K Stubbs

Good, bad, ugly, however you want to look at it, I give FORD props for getting involved in stock/superstock like they are. Maybe this will encourage other makers to get involved as well and, hopefully, let our sport continue to grow.

Other makers??? Like who, the imports??? GM and Mopar are in bad shape financially.

Mark Yacavone · 12-13-2009, 04:25 PM

The good thing is, now NHRA will raise the trigger for HP to a more realistic level.
That way ,these new combos will be able to dominate the qualifying sheet. (So they think.)

Evan Smith · 12-13-2009, 05:42 PM

The 352 is based on the 302 and the 428 is based on the 351.

12-13-2009, 07:18 AM	#21
Dale Shannon Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver NC Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines Yes Ken been out of racing fora while now, but I guess what I wanted to know was will ford build any of this or will it be a MPR or back-yard built? Next question were in stock will they race, how many AAAA'S can NHRA add.

12-13-2009, 08:02 AM	#22
Larry Munk Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 135 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines The obvious question now is, Why just not allow all fuel injected crate motors?

12-13-2009, 09:15 AM	#23
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,861 Likes: 456 Liked 16,554 Times in 1,522 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines GTX John, Its not a hoax, it was announced at the PRI show. Dale, Ford is building these cars, but does it really matter who builds them.? NHRA has approved them.

12-13-2009, 09:17 AM	#24
bubski Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 228 Likes: 14 Liked 165 Times in 60 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines Engine specs. Proking heads for pushrod motors CNCed of course.2 sheetmetal intakes with part# written in magic marker.3 Jesel rockers.4 Jesel belt.5 titanium retainers.6 1.55 PAC springs.7 ultra light pistons half inch deep notches, .065 top ring hieght, .028 top and second ring 3mm oil ring.8 .700 solid roller cam .904 lifters.9 pendulum under cut superlite crank and titanium rods.10 vacuum pump.full lenth kickout oil pan and modified K member.11 1000 cfm throttle body.12 and of course clutchless 5 speed for all! and you thougth roller rockers in stock was an abomination. Looks like stock, superstock as we knew it is dead. Wait till these guys stop buying bigger rigs and invest in their cars instead. Lots of nice old muscle back on the street !

12-13-2009, 10:09 AM	#25
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines And a lot of you guys cursed me for coming up with the crate motor IHRA classes......Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Its great that the auto manufacturers are becoming involved in this bad economy but these specs are a little over the top (my opinion) unless they are S/S only. At the very least the HP ratings should be more "correct" and if the combo dosent meet the 7.5 lb wt factor with a resonable HP rating they should go right into S/S. The rule of limited production cars being automaticly a S/S car and stockers being showroom avaliable to anyone seems to have been thrown out the window long ago. The new Fords along with the Dodges with the 360 combo will be interesting no doubt in the lower classes. I guess we cant stop progress.

12-13-2009, 02:44 PM	#27
K Stubbs Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Benton, Arkansas Posts: 402 Likes: 0 Liked 20 Times in 3 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines Good, bad, ugly, however you want to look at it, I give FORD props for getting involved in stock/superstock like they are. Maybe this will encourage other makers to get involved as well and, hopefully, let our sport continue to grow.

12-13-2009, 04:25 PM	#29
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,119 Times in 1,950 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines The good thing is, now NHRA will raise the trigger for HP to a more realistic level. That way ,these new combos will be able to dominate the qualifying sheet. (So they think.) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-13-2009, 05:42 PM	#30
Evan Smith Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 400 Likes: 7 Liked 115 Times in 5 Posts	Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines The 352 is based on the 302 and the 428 is based on the 351. __________________ Evan Smith 1798 STK